Previewing Florida / Gameday Open Thread
South Carolina Gamecocks at Florida Gators, Nov 15, 2008 3:30 PM EST
Our hated enemies.
Time to travel to Gainesville to take on the top-five Gators. Florida is one of the best teams in the nation, and this will be a very, very difficult game for us to win. The Gators have beaten Vandy, Georgia, and LSU, all teams that we lost to, by around 30 points per game. They beat Kentucky, a team we struggled to beat by seven, by about 60 points. They also lost to a team we beat, but it's safe to say that they haven't play like they did against Ole Miss since that game. Make no mistake; the odds are stacked high against us.
That said, we're a good team and are capable of hanging with the Gators. To do it, we'll have to play our best game of the year and maybe get a little luck, but Ole Miss has taught us that the Gators are not invincible. Here are my three keys to victory.
Win the Turnover Battle
One of the truisms of football is that turnovers are a great equalizer. If you go back and dissect a number of great upsets, one thing you'll likely see is that the underdog won the turnover battle. If you give up a lot of turnovers, it doesn't matter how great your QB is, how big your linemen are, or how fast your receivers are: you're likely going to lose. Although Florida looked sluggish against Ole Miss, they still would have won easily if not for a couple of lost fumbles in their own territory that led to 10 points for the Rebels. Whether they give them to us or we force them, we need to get some takeaways and not commit any of our own.
Of course, the idea of a team with one of the nation's worst turnover margins winning the turnover battle against a team with one of the best margins is difficult to conceive. The Gators do not turn the ball over much. First of all, their passing attack relies largely on low risk short throws to players who can get lots of yards after the catch. Second of all, Tim Tebow is a smart player who knows when to hold onto the ball or throw it away. However, as Ole Miss, as well as Auburn and Georgia last year, has shown us, if you can get your defensive players in the backfield to pressure Tebow and his band of speedsters, you can force them to make mistakes. That's easier said than done; if we blitz a lot and aren't successful, Florida will beat us with down-field throws. However, blitzing seems like the only way to have any hope against Florida's offense, so we're going to have to do lots of it. Ellis Johnson has done nothing but impress me this year, so there's hope that he has a good plan.
On the flip side of things, we have to protect the ball. While the Gators have generally played extremely well over the past few weeks, they've also feasted on the mistakes of their enemies. If we give up a couple of early picks or fumbles, this game will quickly turn into another TD derby for Florida. They're hard enough to stop at all, but they're nearly impossible to stop if you give them a short field. Unfortunately, we haven't protected the ball well this year. Going into this game with an inexperienced freshman and a sophomore who's known for throwing interceptions as our QBs does not seem promising. However, both have played well at times and we have to hope for the best. If Blake Mitchell can go into the Swamp and appear poised, Stephen Garcia and Chris Smelley can do the same.
Special Teams Play
Florida has one of the most productive group of special teams units in the country. They have a great return man in Brandon James. They block kicks. They do it all. Along with turnovers, they've used great returns and special teams gaffes by their opponents to roll up their absurd victory margins. Again, the Ole Miss game was the exception here, as the Rebels blocked the game-tying PAT en route to the victory.
The Gamecocks also have good special teams. Like Florida, special teams play cost us in one game--Vanderbilt--but we've been solid since then. We will be without return guy Chris Culliver in the first half, but Captain Munnerlyn is also capable on returns. We've avoided giving up lots of blocked kicks and got one of our own against Kentucky. We need to continue doing these things against Florida. We simply can't afford to give them any gift-wrapped points.
Last but not least, Ryan Succop needs to have a good game. If this game ends up being close and winnable, we need Succop to make every one of his kicks. Unfortunately, the Swamp is probably not the best medicine for Succop's mental woes. It is (1) loud as hell and (2) a place where Succop has some bad memories.
Gamecock Man's least favorite memory as a Gamecocks fan.
All of this said, I feel confident that Ryan will win the game for us if he gets the chance to.
Get a Quick Start and Don't Let the Game Get Out of Hand
If I'm not mistaken, Tim Tebow has never led the Gators to a fourth-quarter comeback. In fact, it seems like Florida usually loses when they go into the fourth quarter without a huge lead, although there are a few notable exceptions like the UF-Miami game earlier this year. The Gators tend to do two things: either win big or lose close. I'm not sure if there's any logic behind this trend, but if there is, it suggests that if we can keep this game close going into the endgame, we stand a good chance. It also, of course, suggests that we're in for a rout if Florida jumps out to an early lead of two TDs or more.
cocknfire has argued that our chances in this game depend on our defense playing a great game, which is certainly true. However, even if our defense plays lights out, the Gators are still going to score between 20-30 points. This is not Tennessee and we can't hope to hold Florida to under 10 unless half of Florida's offense wakes up with dysentery. Therefore, our offense has to play its best game of the year for us to have a chance. We have to match Florida every time they score and we have to score at least 28 points.
Doing these things, of course, depends on a number of factors. The offensive line has to play well, and Florida will test them more than Arkansas did last week. Garcia and Smelley have to be precise--we won't win if they overthrow their receivers as much as they did last week. Spurrier has to have a good gameplan. Our coach has thrown in some new wrinkles over the past few weeks, so let's hope that we have a tactical advantage and can execute.
Prediction
A win in this game would undoubtedly be the signature win to date of the Spurrier era and maybe of our time in the SEC. It would be much bigger than our win over the Gators in 2005. Then, Florida was in a transitional phase. Now, they're a mighty juggernaut, perhaps the best in the land if they're as good as they've seemed over the past few weeks. Beating a team like that is something that we haven't done since we joined the SEC.
Unfortunately, I don't see it happening. I do think we can keep this close if we avoid mistakes, but in the end, Florida just has too much firepower and will eventually score their 30 points or so, and our offense won't be able to keep up unless we play much better than we have throughout the season. I'm going with 34-23 Gators as my prediction. That said, I have my fingers crossed that Spurrier has some surprises cooked up for his old team and that Garcia and Smelley are going to look like worldbeaters. If those things happen, and our defense plays like it's been playing, we could have good cause to celebrate tomorrow night.
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I never really thought he would make that kick
And I keep watching the video, hoping to be wrong.
Right every time.
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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 12:53 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I was absolutely sure he would make the kick...
I was still living in Columbia at the time. Me and a couple of buddies were watching the game at my apartment. I distinctly remember yelling to my friends that Ryan Succop was going to go down in history as one of our biggest heroes after making that kick. Then…bam. Moss blocks the kick and the three of us just sat staring at the TV for a few minutes, nobody saying a word. I can’t think of a more depressing football moment that I’ve witnessed.
Go Cocks!
by Gamecock Man on Nov 15, 2008 1:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
One of my favorites of all time.
I was there for that blocked kick. You’ve never heard a noise like 92,000 people going from terrified, 05db muttering/murmuring/praying to 130db jet engine on afterburner, right next to your ear. I hugged 20 strangers in 30 seconds, I laughed and screamed, people were even crying with joy. It was an amazing moment, one that I cherish for having experienced in person.
As for the game: the Gators don’t like playing from behind. And I know how important it is to Spurrier to score on the first drive. Wouldn’t surprise me to see the OBC use all four downs to try to get a TD on his first drive. Also don’t expect to see him defer if he wins the toss. He will take the ball.
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by Gatorpilot on Nov 15, 2008 9:28 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure it was great from a Gators standpoint...
And I won’t deny that it was an incredible play. In hindsight, it was one of the most important special teams plays I’ve ever seen, considering the title implications.
And yeah, I agree that scoring first will be very significant in this game. My impression is that when the Gators get a couple of early scores, they smell blood and let the dogs loose. However, they seem to be a different team when their back is against the wall late in the game. I’m sure Spurrier will take the ball if we win the toss. He usually takes it anyways, but an early score will be doubly important today. And I wouldn’t be surprised to see him pull out a couple of wacky plays early, too.
Go Cocks!
by Gamecock Man on Nov 15, 2008 10:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
team from northern part of SC
is on the verge of upseting Duke today.
by Flounder on Nov 15, 2008 2:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Heh...
I was hoping the Blue Devils would give ’em the bidness. I guess not. I sure hope they lose to UVA so we can have the pleasure of handing them a losing season.
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by Gamecock Man on Nov 15, 2008 2:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The longer it stays scoreless, the better for us
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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 4:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
&^%*&$^$#&^%$%*(&)&^)(&_*(&*%*%$&^%$#^%$
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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 4:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Stp the f-----g rotating crap
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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 4:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I now hate Danielson and Lundquist
You don’t “bend the rules”
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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 4:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Join the club...
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by Gamecock Man on Nov 15, 2008 4:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I never thought they were all that bad
But that crap about “giving it to him” was BS, and we almost showed why.
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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 4:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They're horrible...
I was hoping we could shut them up today. Apparently that wasn’t in Chris Smelley or Ray Rychleski’s plans.
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by Gamecock Man on Nov 15, 2008 4:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Screen on 3rd and 2, or maybe even 3rd and 12, okay
Screen on 3rd and 22 — incredibly dumb
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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 4:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Norwood tries to save the game
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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 4:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Surprise: a throw from Smelley that looks like he's out of rhythm
Wonder why
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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 4:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
whew
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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 5:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
At least we’re on the board.
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by Gamecock Man on Nov 15, 2008 5:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Halftime thoughts...
#$#$#$#$#$#$#@$
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by Gamecock Man on Nov 15, 2008 5:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. Not much more to say
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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 5:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Really this time...
Our defense has played quite well and is quite capable of playing against any offense in the country from what I can see.
However, the least thing we could afford to do was to gift wrap points for the Gators. We gave them 21. The other 7 came on the long pass with the uncalled offensive pass interference. I would complain about that play, but it doesn’t really matter.
As far QBs, despite his two interceptions, Smelley is our only hope to regain our dignity. Garcia looks absolutely confused every time he comes into the game. Whether that’s because he just doesn’t know what he’s doing or he’s confused by the rotating system, I don’t know. But he didn’t come to play by whatever game plan Spurrier gave him, so I say we go with Chris.
At this point. I just hope we can come out and score a couple of times and avoid losing by 40.
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by Gamecock Man on Nov 15, 2008 5:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It's the rotation
It didn’t work last week, it isn’t working this week, and it has to stop. Smelley + Garcia < Johnson + Palmer. And if Spurrier doesn’t realize that, we’ll be lucky to avoid losing by 50
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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 5:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Turn out the lights
The party’s over
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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 5:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Our receivers are horrible...
I fear next year without McKinley. I hope Cook stays or Saunders steps up. Moe Brown, Jason Barnes, and Joe Hills are not the answer. How many plays have they ruined tonight?
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by Gamecock Man on Nov 15, 2008 5:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I would say this is the least of our problems
I don’t know what the worst of our problems has been, but I think WRs haven’t been
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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 6:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It just breaks my heart to see a receiver forget a route, drop a pass, etc.
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by Gamecock Man on Nov 15, 2008 6:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This whole game breaks my heart
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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 6:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Norwood's been great
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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 6:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
So that sucked
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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 7:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
At least ...
… you scored six and didn’t have to see one in the first digit of the Florida score.
Who was that team who has seen that this year again? I forgot …:-)
Tough game, guys. But trust me when I say, “Been there, done that.” Florida right now is just indomitable.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 15, 2008 7:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Good luck against Vandy, chaps – Cobb v Nickson should be a seriously entertaining contest.
by peachy rex on Nov 15, 2008 8:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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