Fla and So Cal : SEC and Pac 10
I saw a link in one of the Blogs last week that took me to a nice little article in the So Cal student newspaper. In this article, the author claimed that the current perception that So Cal's dominance over the Pac 10 was no longer impressive because of the talent gap between So Cal and the rest of the Pac 10. The author also claimed that this was Pete Carrol's fault.
The crux of the argument basically said that because of So Cal's dominance on the field and on the recruiting trail, the rest of the conference as deteriorated into mediocrity. Because of this mediocrity, beating up on the rest of the Pac 10 didn't impress poll voters anymore and hurts So Cal's standings nationally. Or at least, that's the perception. (Side note: The fact that Oregon State could win the conference if they win out kinda debunks this argument, by that's not the point here)
Why am I talking about this on an SEC blog or a USC blog?
Good question, with the performance we've seen out of Fla for the last couple of weeks (Average margin of victory for the last 6 games: 44.33) and the fact that many of the big play makers are underclassmen, I start to wonder when this type of on field dominance is going to end for Fla. If that's the case, does Fla do to the SEC what So Cal has done (supposedly) to the Pac 10? I don't think so. But its scary to think about.
Right now the SEC is the conference that recruits want to be in. Many of our bigger teams are known for recruiting nationally. If it stops being a hard fought conference, does that change? I hope not. One of the things I like about being a USC and SEC fan is that you never know who the top teams are going to be every year.
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I don't foresee Florida dominating the SEC like Southern Cal does in the Pac-10...
Urban has done a great job of loading Florida with great talent both on the field and in the coaches’ box. However, while there might be a small talent differential between Florida and other SEC powers like Bama, UGA, and LSU, it’s not as big as the one between Southern Cal and their competitors, although it might seem like it this year because the Gators are really peaking. The other top SEC programs are usually better than Oregon, Oregon State, Cal, etc., and Florida won’t push them around every year. I think you’ll see Saban and Bama especially level the playing field with the Gators over the next couple of years. Saban has that program on the way to big things. All of this means that you’ll probably continue to see an SEC that’s more level than the Pac-10.
Another thing to think about is whether Florida is really that much better than everyone else in terms of raw talent or if they’ve just managed to find the perfect combination of talent, intensity, play calling, and the like. Don’t forget that UGA was similarly dominant late last year but came back down to earth this year. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Gators do the same next year.
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by Gamecock Man on Nov 17, 2008 11:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think it's got to be more than one year
Sure, if Florida does this for a few years, we might start seeing the SEC’s status erode. (For the record, the bottom half of the Pac-10 is just badbadbadbad. It has nothing to do with the Trojans being good.) But don’t forget that CBS and ESPN have a few billion reasons to trumpet the SEC, so that helps.
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by cocknfire on Nov 18, 2008 12:20 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Different
USC has dominated the Pac-10 for several years now. Florida has done it in the SEC for several weeks. That’s the first, most obvious difference.
Plus, how many true football powerhouses has there ever been in the Pac-10? The last time one of those schools other than USC won a national title was UCLA in the 1950s. LSU took it just last year.
No one will dominate the SEC for all that long. There are too many good coaches and too many fan bases that demand excellence. Fulmer would never have been fired in the Pac-10 for what his team has done in his tenure there, but in the SEC he gets shown the door.
by Year2 on Nov 18, 2008 12:35 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Obviously, this was meant as a “what if” or a “interesting thought” excercise. Personally, I think that there is way to much ‘parity’ in college football for any one team to dominate anymore. Look at what has happened to So Cal in the last two years or to what’s happening in the Big 10 (Of course I suspect that now that OSU and UM can’t dominate anymore, it’ll be harder to get kids to go somewhere that cold).
Having said that, what Fla has done in the second half of this year has been nothing short of amazing. I really hope that they can’t continue it into next year, but all signs are pointing to a MNC this year with a #1 preseason birth going into next year. Too much talent coming back.
by Charlestowne on Nov 18, 2008 8:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Unlikely to dominate
I could see Florida having the upper hand in the SEC East for the forseeable future. Tennessee will be rebuilding for at least a few years, and Mark Richt isn’t up to the task of stopping the Gators. But the west will be pretty competitive year in and year-out. Bama is good this year, and will be better next. LSU is having a year somewhat similar to UF in terms of rebuilding after a national championship, but I guarantee they’ll be back, and smokin’, in short order. Auburn is usually solid, this year notwithstanding; and Ole Miss and Arkansas have both elevated themselves, either through play and talent and/or coaching.
I could see Florida winning the SEC East for the next few years and winning in Atlanta more often than not, but this conference is too deep for one team to do what Southern Cal did to the Pac-10. Also, don’t forget fan interest. Who really cares about Oregon State or Stanford? Meanwhile we have teams in the SEC with rabid followings at all levels, from Florida/Bama to South Carolina to Mississippi, for crying out loud. There is a passion to win and be successful here. In the Pac-10 it’s just a spectator sport.
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by Gatorpilot on Nov 21, 2008 10:54 AM EST reply actions 0 recs













