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Bobby Johnson Questions Reviews

Bobby Johnson has taken issue with the two reviewed calls that went in our favor over the weekend. Of particular interest to Johnson was the call on D.L. Moore's touchdown:

"I'm not saying anybody's doing anything subversive or anything like that, (but) in my opinion (Moore's) foot clearly was on the line after he bobbled the ball. After he had possession, his left foot was in the air, his right foot was on the line," Johnson said.

I'm a little torn on these calls. Both, I think, were fairly ambiguous. For that reason, I think--and this might surprise you--we probably got luckier with the first call than the second. The first one was hard to call because it looked like the Vandy defender may have already been in the process of stripping Kenny Miles as Miles's elbow hit the ground. Given that the call on the field was fumble, I think Johnson is right to argue that the video evidence wasn't conclusive enough to overturn the call, which is what eventually happened. I would say the second call also shouldn't have been overturned because of inconclusive evidence, which in that case is what ended up happening. It looked to me like Moore's left foot was still on the ground as he gained possession of the ball, which I think is what the review focused on, unlike the dunces in the broadcasting box, who fixated on the right foot. Even the right foot, though, was questionable; it looked right on the line to me. Given the ambiguity, the right call was probably to go with what the stripes on the field decided on, which is what happened.

All of this is to say that I think we got a break on the calls, but more so because the officials weren't consistent in their interpretation of the requirement for conclusive evidence than because either call was actually very clear cut, as Johnson seems to believe.

P. S. In the spirit of full disclosure, I should say that I haven't watched any replays since Saturday night, so take my opinions with a grain of salt. I'm sure Johnson has watched them closer than I have.

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Dunces.

Hold up. I’m not saying I’m not a dunce, but it seemed pretty clear to me that D.L.‘s foot was on the line at the time of possesion. The call would be egregious if they had called it incomplete on the field and then overturned it after review. However, since they called it a TD on the field to begin with, I don’t think it’s as bad.

Still, Vandy can’t be too upset here. They never would have run that kick back if DL hadn’t scored there. They only managed a measly 3 offensive points the whole night. I really don’t think either of these calls truly affected the outcome.

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by The Feathered Warrior on Oct 26, 2009 7:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe you're right. I'd have to watch it again.

However, I really thought he gained possession while his left foot was on the ground. And you’re right about the call not effecting the outcome. As you say, it’s not like it occurred while Vandy was ahead or like they would have even scored anyways, considering that they tied it with the run back.

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by Gamecock Man on Oct 26, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's up with

all the coaches questioning calls these last few weeks? Is this normal for a season for so many coaches to speak out against calls?

Petrino>Kiffin>Mullen>Johnson

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by generalrazor on Oct 27, 2009 12:52 AM EDT reply actions  

No possession when left foot on field

I did look at the play again. It is close but it showed that when the left foot was on the field he was not in complete possession of the ball, he only gained full control as he moved from his left foot to his right, which was on the line. It is true that the announcers did not examine the left foot, but perhaps they also saw no possession then. And though we do not know what the outcome would have been, has no one ever heard of momentum? A vert worried Spurrier was pacing the sidelines like a cat on a hot tin roof the whole game. His reactions and facial expressions showed it all. Had the game run it’s course as it did, the score would have been Vandy 10, SC 7. As to SEC refs, I have not followed that, but in my years in watching football, these seemingly overall pervasive problems are something i have not seen in a conference.

by chief43 on Oct 27, 2009 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

You could argue that the score would have actually ended 7-3 'Cocks...

Because if we hadn’t scored that TD, Vandy would have never scored on the ensuing kickoff.

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by Gamecock Man on Oct 27, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

"the score would have been Vandy 10, SC 7"

Or the score could have been USC 14 – Vandy 3. Actually it could have been anything. I’m over the hub bub about this call. We won the game, that’s all history will reflect. I’m moving on.

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by The Feathered Warrior on Oct 27, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

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