Sizing Up the Gamecocks Bowl Prospects
Now that we've taken out the Tigers, it's time to start thinking about our bowl prospects. While the win over Clemson was nice, we're unfortunately out of the running for a New Year's Day bowl. Shreveport and Memphis are probably out, as well, as those bowls will divvy up Auburn and Arkansas due to geographical concerns. That leaves the Peach Bowl, the Music City Bowl, and the Papa John's Bowl. Let's take a look at our chances for each one.
The Peach (aka Chick-fil-A) Bowl
Sorry, Gamecocks fans: although the bowl's officials are playing nice with Carolina, the word is that the Gamecocks best possible bowl destination is likely in the market for an UGA-VA Tech matchup. I don't think this bowl is completely out of the picture for us; a lot depends on the ACCCG outcome. A GA Tech victory probably means that the Dawgs and Hokies will get the bid. However, I think it's possible that a Clemson win in the ACCCG could prompt Chick-fil-A to go with GA Tech, spurn UGA, and match us up with the Yellowjackets. That's still a bit unlikely, though. The Jackets played in Atlanta last year and would be coming off two losses, and I suspect those factors would steer Chick-fil-A away from Tech and back towards the UGA-VA Tech pairing. All in all, I think this bowl is a long shot for us. While we'd probably be a good draw, we're just not as attractive to Chick-fil-A as UGA, who is a hometown favorite and finished ahead of us in the standings.
The Music City Bowl
This is probably the bowl the Gamecocks deserve, as this one typically takes the best available lower-tier SEC East team. However, a bid here is far from certain. Although we finished ahead of the Wildcats in the standings by virtue of a head-to-head win, the MCB doesn't have to choose us over UK, and it likes the 'Cats because they traveled well two straight years in 2006 and 2007. The bowl does not appear to be averse to taking Kentucky again, neither because the 'Cats finished below us or because they have been to the MCB so frequently of late. Personally, I expect you'll see Kentucky go to Nashville, but I could be wrong. One factor going in our favor is that the organizers may jump at the chance to match us up against UNC, which would be an attractive bowl to both Gamecocks and Tar Heels fans.
The Papa John's Bowl
The Papa John's Bowl is, frankly, a lower bowl than we deserve. It's also a fairly unattractive bowl, being in an old stadium on the wrong side of the tracks in Birmingham and featuring a matchup against a lower-tier Big East team. However, there's a very good chance that this is where we'll end up if the Peach and MCB pass on us. Our likely opponent here would likely be UConn. Rutgers or South Florida are also unlikely possibilities.
Summing Up
Frankly, I think we're going to end up in Birmingham. That may not be a terribly attractive draw, but it does have a couple of things going for it. First of all, Birmingham isn't too far from Columbia, so while I expect a lot of people will stay home because of the locale, I expect others will choose to go because it will be a short, inexpensive trip. I also, believe it or not, like the idea of playing a Big East team. While beating GA or VA Tech in the Peach or UNC in the MCB would be more satisfying, I also feel like a game against UConn is probably a more likely win, and this young team could use that momentum going into the offseason.
Whatever happens--and obviously there will more to say about this over the next few weeks--I think that if we can win whichever game we draw, we can call this season a moderate success.
So, which game would you like to see us in? And which one will we get?
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I think you're right
We seem to be headed to Birmingham, which kind of ticks me off. A January 2 matchup with the Big East wouldn’t even draw me to watch on TV if Carolina wasn’t playing.
I really don’t like the idea of playing a Big East team. Whoever it is will be a boring, ho-hum opponent. Nothing short of a 30 point blowout will raise eyebrows, and there is always the possibility of a loss. I hope we at least get South Florida. They offer the possibility of a blowout, and they are the lone team in that conference we occasionally battle head to head on the recruiting trail. It would be nice to get a big win over them to show to the random Florida kid that thinks USF is a comparable alternative to playing in the SEC.
I’ll be in the Carolinas for the holiday, but I seriously doubt I will drive to Birmingham the day after New Year’s for the game. I would love the chance to see us play UNC-CH in Nashville though. I suspect the Music City organizers have no idea how much excitement and ticket sales that pairing would generate among Carolina fans.
by GwinnettGamecock on Dec 1, 2009 2:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I didn't realize this, but USF is actually playing UConn this weekend...
A UConn win might move the Huskies up in the bowl pecking order, but I’m not really sure it would matter, as the bowl that gets a pick before the Papa John’s Bowl is the St. Petersburg Bowl, which I’m sure would prefer to take USF, especially considering that the bowl has already gotten UCF on board.
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by Gamecock Man on Dec 1, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm fully prepared for UConn
Not only do the Huskies play ugly, Big Ten-style football, but we’d play everybody’s feel good team due to the stabbing death of their starting CB. So we get a boring opponent, and if we blow them out, it’s like we’ve killed a kitten on live TV. In Birmingham.
The most important thing is the extra practice and a chance at another win. After remembering many years when we didn’t sniff a bowl, it’s kind of nice to be at a point where certain bowls are a disappointment. In an odd way, that’s a very certain sign of the program’s progress.
by GwinnettGamecock on Dec 1, 2009 5:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm praying for Atlanta, hoping for Nashville but somewhat expecting BHam.
Oh and I do need to make one more Carolina football related comment: We need to retire Sandstorm. Please. Do it for the children. They are innocent.
--Robert
A Towers Alumnus
by a gamecock fan on Dec 1, 2009 4:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I kind of liked Sandstorm...
When we were only playing it a few times a game. Then, when I go down to the Florida game, we’re playing it every other play. Which they did again against the Tigers.
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by Gamecock Man on Dec 1, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the kids love it
and with all due respect to past student crowds (including me in the mid 90s), I’ve never seen the students more “into” it than when Sandstorm is playing … witness the Ole Miss game.
by tryptic67 on Dec 1, 2009 7:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That's true; maybe it's a generational thing...
Although I’m not quite old enough to be before the techno generation. At any rate, it does get the students pumped.
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by Gamecock Man on Dec 1, 2009 7:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The times, they are a'changin.
I spent 4 years in USC’s marching band, and I’m not too pleased with the new direction the gameday expereince at Williams-Brice is taking – namely, playing music through the loudspeakers all the time while leaving little time for the band to do its thing. But you gotta roll with the times. Nothing gets any student section anywhere more pumped than Sandstorm. It’s quickly becoming a huge recruiting tool for us both in person and on TV. Not mention the fact that a pumped up student section pumps up our players and therefore enhances our chances of winning. Has anyone noticed that the only game we’ve lost at home all year was to eventual national champions Florida? Not a coincidence. I remember the day when our players played better on the road, but now we have a true advantage at home. Eventually, this will probably be just another thing that UGA steals from us (see “Game…Cocks” cheer, Krypton, and AJ Green).
Dum spiro spero - "While I breathe, I hope"
State motto of South Carolina
by The Feathered Warrior on Dec 1, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But it's just so....lame.
My inner hipster dies a little bit each time that comes on. That is all.
--Robert
A Towers Alumnus
by a gamecock fan on Dec 2, 2009 8:20 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I know bowls are about prestige, but...
I’m OK with the Papajohns.com Bowl, aside from its embarrassingly contemporary name that is. First of all, we’re lucky to be going to any bowl at all. If we had lost to Clemson and been 6-6, I’m not kidding when I say I would have preferred not to go to any bowl at all. Even though the Pizza Bowl picks after the Independent Bowl, I’m extremley grateful that it doesn’t look like we’ll be heading to Shreveport. I was there in 2005, and trust me, that is a drive that you do not want to make. Plus, I honestly don’t think Carolina would have that good of a fan showing to a bowl that far away. After last year where we couldn’t even sell our allotment to the Outback bowl, I think he need to build up some goodwill again for when we actually need it (next year, hopefully).
Plus, I want a win. I don’t care if it comes against a Big East team. I want an 8 win season so bad it hurts. I think the Pizza Bowl gives us the best chance to do that. It may not be the sexy option, but Birmingham has a lot to offer. I think, given all the other factors surrounding the bowls this season, Birmingham gives this program the best opportunity to build for next year. Plus, let’s face it, the entire Athletic department needs to end this season on a high note to promote Gamecock Club membership, which has been lagging due to the YES program.
Dum spiro spero - "While I breathe, I hope"
State motto of South Carolina
by The Feathered Warrior on Dec 1, 2009 9:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree on a lot of these points...
It’s not a sexy option and it kind of stinks to feel like you’re getting screwed, but Birmingham DOES give us a great chance at a win, and that gives us momentum going into recruiting and next year. This program needs an eight-win year. Plus, as you say, Birmingham isn’t as bad as most people think. Legion Field isn’t the best and it’s not in a great part of town, but the city of Birmingham actually has a good bit to offer. I’m personally happy if we go and win.
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by Gamecock Man on Dec 1, 2009 9:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Plus we have to face economic realities
people are getting through the recession as best they can, but there’s been a toll … lots of empty seats in D1 games this year (not just at W-B) … Lots of people cutting discretionary spending way back … combined all hat with a couple of lackluster seasons and a relatively disappointing showing (attendance-wise) at the Outback Bowl last year … and i have a hard time faulting the Peach/Chik-Fil-A or Music City for passing on us this year …
Chik-Fil-A knows Va Tech travels well, but will the economy take a toll on even the Hokies? Wanting a ‘home’ UGA crowd to make sure all the seats are filled makes sense (even though I think USC would still draw almost or equally well, it’s a no brainer money-wise to go with UGA – half the crowd won’t even need a hotel room, making it more attractive to the fans looking to save money).
Music City knows Nashville is an attraction, but with I-40 closed between Ashville and Knoxville, the organizers have to be worried it is a long haul for Cock fans .. .through Atlanta, up to Chattanooga and up again to Nashville is 10-13 hour drive for most of SC. In fat times, with a 7-5 USC club (preferably an 8-3), I think they’d say ‘yes’ … but in 2009, the Cats make better economic sense. Nashville and Lexington seem a lot more ‘connected’ to folks in that side of the world than it might appear geographically speaking to us. Now I know that the distance and i-40 problem hurts UNC as bad as us, but remember this Bowl is contractually obligated to take an ACC team … so having UK to balance UNC in terms of travel actually works even more against us.
I’m like Gamecock Man …Birmingham isn’t so bad … not quite as far as Nashville … in the great scheme of things, it’s about equal to the Liberty / Independence / Music City / Meineke in terms of prestige.
My vote is let’s go win it. With any luck, by this time next year we’ll have the record that gives us a more prominent bowl … and better times for all of us!
by tryptic67 on Dec 2, 2009 8:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Right on your last point...
The bowl system is unfair, but how much room do we have to complain when we can’t manage better than 7-5? Hopefully one year we’ll actually get one of those mythical automatic bids…
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by Gamecock Man on Dec 2, 2009 9:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. It's only bad if we lose the game.
--Robert
A Towers Alumnus
by a gamecock fan on Dec 2, 2009 11:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Equal?
Living here in Richmond, I so badly wanted to play (and beat) Va. Tech in the Peach Bowl. But I can’t fault the bowl for passing on us. While UGa would pack the house, remember, they are an extension of the chamber of commerce. Very few of those UGa fans would need hotels and would just be coming in for the game. In this economic state, the Bowl probably a team that will bring a ton of fans and spend a lot of money.
If we had gone to the Peach Bowl, we may have lost to Va. Tech, and possible get blown out. We don’t need that. We need a win, for nothing else, but to start 2010 on a positive note. Perhaps with a convincing win vs. UConn or USF, we can crack the final top 25 poll and gain some momentum for next year.
Also, last year I honest don’t think we belonged going to the Outback Bowl. We struggled down the stretch and we got embarressed by Iowa. In retrospect, we probably should have gone to a lesser bowl and maybe this is sort of a make-up for that.
Finally, I don’t consider the Liberty Bowl, Independance and Music City Bowls all equal. The Liberty Bowl has been around for over 50 and actually has some (not a lot, but some) cache to it. I’ve got to say that the PJ Bowl is one of the lower bowl games that doesn’t include a MAC or CUSA team. Good Lord, it’s named after a pizza company!
With that said, hopefully Carolina makes us proud and puts up an a great effort in a win so we can use it as a building block for next year.
by biggamepaul on Dec 2, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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