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Should Billy Gillispie Be On the Hot Seat?: A Neutral Observer's Point of View

In the aftermath of our historic dismantling of the Kentucky Wildcats this past Wednesday night, the Big Blue Nation has understandably been wondering what has gone wrong with this season and where their program is headed. Much of the focus is on second-year coach Billy Gillispie, who, according to just about any Wildcats fan you ask, has not succeeded this year. Many are either implicitly of explicitly claiming that Gillispie is not the man for the job in Lexington, that he needs to be fired, and that the Cats should take a shot at a big-name, proven winner. My favorite Wildcats blog, A Sea of Blue, is awash with folks calling for Gillispie's head, although blog manager failure . Another UK blog I read, Danny Jett's Inner Circle, claims that the fans of the Big Blue are unhappy with Gillispie and that those fans have a right to be heard by the athletics department.

All of this makes one wonder: Does Gillispie's performance this year truly warrant dismissal? Are Cats fans' expectations too high? While it would be easy to say that the Big Blue Nation is full of crazies and that it would be pure lunacy to fire a second-year coach, the issue is more complicated than that. I, for one, believe that UK fans have every right to expect their Cats to be national contenders every single year. I don't have a record book in front of me, but, if I'm not mistaken, Kentucky has more wins than any other NCAA program and have seven national titles, second only to UCLA. Recently from the early Rick Pitino years to the last couple of seasons under Tubby Smith, the Cats were a regular fixture in the Top 10 and were a constant threat to make a deep run in the NCAA Tournament. They have the facilities, fan support, and insitutional infrastructure to bring in the best coaches and blue-chip talent. As someone who has visited Lexington, I can also say that the campus and city are gorgeous. If I were a high school basketball player, I wouldn't hesitate to come to Kentucky if they offered me a scholarship. All this means that it's completely reasonable for Kentucky fans to expect their Wildcats to be regulars in the Top 15 and a constant threat to win the NCAA Tournament.

Moreover, while many criticized the lack of fan support for Tubby Smith, I think Kentucky fans were justified in criticizing Smith performance. Smith, based on his success at Georgia, during his early years at Kentucky, and now at Minnesota, is clearly a great coach. However, the Kentucky program had grown stagnant in his final years in the Bluegrass. Smith's main problem was that he was unable to maintain the talent level in Lexington. As said, there's no reason to believe that a coach shouldn't be able to bring talent to Kentucky, so Smith's inability to do so was a damning failure on his part, a failure that warranted suspicion that Smith was no longer the man for the job at UK. Many have pointed to Smith's success at Minnesota as proof that Kentucky should have treated him better, but I think the truth is that Minnesota is just a better place for Smith. Minnesota doesn't require Smith to bring in blue chip talent and will be happy with him as long as he regularly makes the NIT and makes occasional appearances in the NCAAs. Those are goals that Smith, a master strategist, can easily obtain. At Kentucky, however, Smith had become unable to live up to reasonable expectations, so it was time for the two to part ways.

Despite the fact that Kentucky can reasonably expect great teams, though, I do not believe Kentucky fans are justified in putting Billy Gillispie on the hot seat at this point. This isn't to say that Gillispie has done a good job this year; his stubborn refusal to adjust his man-to-man defensive philosophy to his team's lack of elite defensive talent in the backcourt has cost his team this year. His teams have had several high turnover games, indicating a lack of mental focus and attention to fundamentals that reflects poorly on the coach. His substitution patterns have been odd at times. There are many indications that things aren't going well in the locker room. All of these points illustrate that Gillispie has not succeeded this year, and Wildcats fans have every right to voice their disapproval of the job he's done.

That said, there are a few reasons that Gillispie should be given more time. First of all, all coaches, excepting those that commit ethical breaches of some sort, deserve four or five years to build a program. It takes time to mold a program in one's image. Some Cats fans have pointed out that it didn't take Rick Pitino long to rebuild Kentucky in the early nineties and that some coaches such as our own Darrin Horn have been able to effect immediate turnarounds in their first year on the job. However, every job has its own particular circumstances: I can't speak for Pitino's early years, but Coach Horn, while certainly a runaway success in Columbia, inherited an experienced team and had the good luck to begin his career as a Gamecock in a down year for the SEC. Moreover, I would contend that we won't be able to truly judge the job Horn has done at USC until the fourth year. At that point, the roster will be his own and if we don't have a good team, he will have failed to build a successful team in his own image. That's why every coach deserves four or five years; you can't really say how successful a coach has been in less time.

Second of all and relatedly, Gillispie inherited a rebuilding job. I do believe that Kentucky should have a better record than they do right now, but the fact is that Tubby Smith did not leave the cupboard full for Gillispie. Patrick Patterson and Jodie Meeks are great players, but past them, Kentucky has not had the kind of talent needed to be a serious national contender. With a good recruiting class in the works and young players like Darius Miller beginning to emerge as contributors, there's good reason to believe that the Cats will have a more talented roster in future years, especially if Patterson and Meeks return next season. Gillispie should be given the opportunity to prove that he can succeed with a deeper roster.

Finally, Kentucky would be shooting itself in the foot by firing Gillispie. What coach would come there and expect to be given a reasonable amount of time to build a program? Of course, Kentucky fans will say that they could always do what Alabama did and spend an insanely large amount of money to get an A-list coach. However, Kentucky already tried to do that when they went after Billy Donovan after Smith left. Who would they go after this time? If they failed to get the big name, they would have to resort to getting someone with no better track record than what Gillispie brought from Texas A & M, and they'd have trouble doing it because coaches would be wary of the situation.

So there you have it: Gillispie needs more time. It may be a tough pill for Cats fans that are eager to see the days of Rupp and Pitino return to the Bluegrass, but the stats say that you don't fire a coach after two years. This is all probably a mute point, as Kentucky's athletics department will not bow to fan vitriol and fire Gillispie this year. However, it's something Cats fans may need to hear right now. Give your coach time to do his thing.

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There are many issues at play here and this is a complex issue. I don’t see a clear-cut right or wrong path, but observation from afar yields the following insights:

1) If Gillispie is a great or even good gameday coach, he has not yet shown that at Kentucky. You gave Gillispie the kid glove treatment regarding his subbing, ridiculous insistence on pure man defense and teams that come out, on a regular basis, and fail to execute at a fundamental level. I’m talking turnovers. I’m talking ball movement. I’m talking the ability to complete a pass. I’m talking the most basic of coaching adjustments that Gillispie just won’t make. There are nearly two seasons worth of performances now that are, frankly, an embarassment to a coach who has risen to the level that Gillispie has. There is no sign of improvement.

2) Gillispie is not an easy coach to like for Kentucky fans. Gillispie is sour to the notion that he should ever have to explain himself or his thinking beyond terse answers such as “That was a coaching decision” and “I’d prefer not to” when asked why he doesn’t play zone against teams which pose little threat on the perimeter. And of course, he’s not very good with the media, either, complaining about their questions (all of which are reasonable and good questions to ask, by the way) and telling them how to do their jobs. That’s OK when you’re winning. In a perverse sort of way, fans kind of enjoy seeing those kind of eccentricities when their team is competing for championships.

But don’t tell them they’re stupid to ask ‘why’. UK fans are a passionate and knowledgeable bunch. They are starting to suspect — as am I — that the reason they don’t get detailed answers is because Gillispie doesn’t really have a rhyme or reason for how or why he does things other than hammering ‘toughness’. I’m dead serious about this. I question if he truly knows what the hell he’s doing.

Maybe this will all turn out in the end to demonstrate Gillispie’s sheer brilliance and the abject stupidity of college basketball fans to question a guy who makes millions of bucks to coach hoops.

Or maybe Gillispie’s going to get run out of town and will fade into obscurity after the brief fame he enjoyed thanks to one Acie Law Jr., without whom we wouldn’t even be having this conversation.

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by Gatorpilot on Feb 28, 2009 1:56 AM EST reply actions  

I'm really not calling them stupid...

I can def. see where the frustration comes from, as I tried to point out. Gillispie may very well be a subpar coach. He might also just be someone that needs to get the right personnel in Lexington to succeed. At any rate, though, all coaches should get four years. That’s especially true when they inherit a rebuilding job. I can remember some situations where teams have fired coaches in less than four, such as your own situation with Ron Zook or UNC’s situation with Matt Doherty (sp.?), but those were situations where a coach had the talent in place to succeed but failed miserably. Doherty also had players saying they wouldn’t play for him, if I remember correctly. Gillispie doesn’t have that talent in place and, as far as we know, doesn’t have players at his neck yet, so anything less than the obligatory four years would be a black mark upon the UK athletics department’s professional image, IMO.

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by Gamecock Man on Feb 28, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Tubby's UK Years STAGNANT???

1998 = 35-4, NCAA champs, #1 in final polls, SEC champs, SECT champs
1999 = 28-9, NCAA Elite 8, Top 5 in final polls, SECT champs
2000 = 23-10, SEC co-champs, Top 20 in final polls
2001 = 24-10, NCAA Sweet 16, SEC co-champs, SECT champs, Top 10 in final polls
2002 = 22-10, NCAA Sweet 16, SEC East co-champs, Top 20 in final polls
2003 = 32-4, NCAA Elite 8, #1 in final AP poll, #1 overall seed in NCAA, SEC champs, SECT champs, first undefeated team in SEC since 1956 (Tubby UNANIMOUS COY)
2004 = 27-5, SEC runner-up, SECT champs, #1 overall seed in NCAA, Top 10 final polls
2005 = 28-6, SEC champs, SECT runner-up, NCAA Elite 8, Top 5 final polls
2006 = 22-13, SECT runner-up
2007 = 22-12

The last 2 years were subpar for UK, no doubt.

Tubby recruited the #1 class in nation in 2004, the #1 JuCo player in 2005, Top 15 class in 2006, and was poised to sign McDonalds A-A Patterson and Lucas in 2007 (B4 he left). He already had a verbal commitment from Parade A-A Draymond Green (now at Mich St instead) for 2008. Sorry, the No Talent Being Recruited dog won’t hunt.

Your assessment of his goals at Minnesota is ABSURD. A few NIT’s, the occasional NCAA???

Tubby had been to 14 STRAIGHT NCAA tourneys at 3 different schools B4 last year. It was his first ever NIT appearance in 17 seasons.

His goals at Minnesota are exactly the same as anywhere else. Win championships. He took over a program that was 9-22 the year B4 and 77-80 the 5 years B4 and is 40-22.

Gillispie took over a program that was 22-12 the year B4 and 131-40 the 5 years B4 and is 37-22.

It’s obvious Gamecock Man that you’ve swallowed the bunk out there that Tubby is happy with 20 W now and then and getting to the NIT. You’re flat out wrong on that.

by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 28, 2009 11:20 AM EST reply actions  

Oh BTW

Minnesota has recruited 2 probable HS All-Americans (Royce White, Rodney Williams) and likely JuCo All-American (Trevor Mbakwe) in this year’s recruiting class.

Last year, Minnesota landed the Canadian POY Devoe Joseph and Juco POY Devron Bostick as part of its class.

I guess no one got the word to Tubby or his staff that they don’t don’t have to recruit top notch talent there.

by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 28, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I've noticed that you feel strongly about Tubby Smith from some things you've said on ASOB...

And I’ll grant that I don’t know as much about his situation as you probably do. However, I don’t think it makes sense to say that Tubby is subject to the same expectations at Minnesota as he is at Kentucky. Tubby surely wants to win championships—every coach does, so it’s somewhat redundant for you to rant and rave about how Tubby isn’t happy with 20 Ws because he wants to win championships. And I think he’s capable of winning championships at Minnesota, considering that he’s proven that he can turn that program around so quickly and, as you say, is getting recruits to come there. The point that I was trying to make, however, is that the Minnesota fan base will not call for his head as long as he can maintain a decent program there, 20 wins, NITs, and occasional NCAA berths. Based on the situation he walked into in Minneapolis, that’s a reasonable expectation. In Lexington, his 22 win seasons over his last two years were below expectations, and UK fans had a right to be upset about it. Please also note that I’m not saying Gillispie is a better coach than Tubby. I think Tubby is a fantastic coach and Gillispie has done nothing to show me that he’s anywhere near that level.

And of yeah. Kentucky was not the SECT runner-up in 2005-2006. The Gamecocks were. We beat you 65-61 in the semifinals that year.

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by Gamecock Man on Feb 28, 2009 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

2006 > That Was The SECT Final, No?

And clearly you know next to nothing about Tubby Smith.

Tubby SUBJECTS HIMSELF and his players to the VERY SAME expectations.

He will never be satisfied with a “decent” program anywhere. He will not be satisfied with NIT. He wants to be in NCAA and W there.

The two 22 W seasons were subpar, no doubt. He averaged 26 W per season at UK. Rupp, Hall, Sutton all had multiple seasons of 22 W or fewer.

by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 28, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

And I Happen To Know The Minnesota AD

I flat out guarantee you that he has much higher expectations than NIT level for Minnesota.

by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 28, 2009 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

You wrote...

2005 = 28-6, SEC champs, SECT runner-up, NCAA Elite 8, Top 5 final polls
2006 = 22-13, SECT runner-up

We were SECT runners up in 2005-2006. We beat you in the semifinals and lost to the Gators in the finals. That was Florida’s first national title year.

I’ll grant that I know much less about Tubby Smith than you do, and I certainly don’t know the UM AD. But let me ask you this: what would Tubby have to do to get fired in Minneapolis? What is the baseline for success there? I’m not talking about Tubby’s own standards for himself; I have no doubt that he wants to win titles. He’s been there and I’m sure he knows he can do it again when he gets the right pieces. But what are realistic expectations in Minneapolis? This isn’t a rhetorical question; you obviously know more about the situation than I do, so please tell us more about the situation up there.

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by Gamecock Man on Feb 28, 2009 12:43 PM EST reply actions  

Tubby Won't Get Fired in Minnesota

The Gophers are expected to compete for Big 10 and NCAA titles like Clem Haskins did in the 1990’s. Haskins was fired for academic cheating, not basketball performance.

Minnesota has a strong basketball tradition, just not lately. Only 7 schools have put more players into the NBA than Minnesota (41). I’ve been Big 10 follower since attending Purdue in 1969. Gophers almost always a strong contender, just not in 2000’s.

by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 28, 2009 1:19 PM EST reply actions  

BTW, while I appreciate the input re: Tubby and Minnesota, this post was only peripherally about that situation...

What do you think about Gillispie?

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by Gamecock Man on Feb 28, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Gillispie Deserves 5 Years

He has struggled. It’s 1000 miles from Texas to Kentucky but a Million Light Years from Texas A&M or Texas-El Paso to UK Basketball.

So long as he doesn’t cheat (he hasn’t) or misbehave off the court (he hasn’t), he should get 5 years to show results.

It took Rupp 9 years to win NCAA title (1948). It took Hall 6 years (1978). It took Pitino 7 years (1996).

Gillispie may be too rigid in his approach. We’ll see.

by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 28, 2009 1:34 PM EST reply actions  

Good article.

As a frequent reader and poster at A Sea of Blue, I too have been somewhat appalled at the call for Gillispie’s coaching head this early in his tenure. As FortyYear says, each coach deserves a fair amount of time to implement his system and players. To fire a coach at this point in his tenure is nigh on program suicide (unless he is cheating). Our fans are passionate but do not always think rationally. Every rational UK fan knew at the beginning of this season that we had questions about the point guard position of this team. Those questions have hounded us all season long and will continue to do so. It’s not going away and USC attacked that deficiency as well as anyone has. We all saw the result.

We have to give Gillispie time.

And congrats on a well played game the other night. Your team played tough and together, exactly what we will need today to vanquish LSU.

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by hoopchi on Feb 28, 2009 2:41 PM EST reply actions  

Good luck against LSU today...

I guess I should say I want you to lose because you’re not out of the Eastern Division race, but we control our own destiny with a favorable schedule and a tiebreaker over you, so we would have no one to blame but ourselves if we don’t win the East. Plus, I guess it’s technically possible for us to tie LSU for the SEC Title if we win out and LSU loses out.

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by Gamecock Man on Feb 28, 2009 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Very Good Article

Even if there are points that I disagree with, the article is still a very good, well reasoned argument. Good work.

Gillispie’s stubborn refusal to make adjustments is the reason for UK being squarely on the bubble. Against LSU, he finally make an adjustment, and went from 8 down to up 10 in a matter of 10 minutes. It is that kind of decision that UK fans such as myself have been begging for, and until Saturday had not seen.

by btcoop71 on Mar 2, 2009 10:36 AM EST reply actions  

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