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Steve Spurrier Says Garcia Is Getting Another Chance

As if the absence of official word to the contrary didn't give it away, report out of Columbia today has it beginning to look more and more like Captain Brahsome has yet to ride his last ride in the Garnet and Black.

Steve Spurrier says that Stephen Garcia will be able to rejoin the team for the fall season if he follows certain guidelines set by Spurrier, Harris Pastides, and Eric Hyman. Per Chris Low:

Garcia will be required to meet certain guidelines set forth by university president Harris Pastides, athletic director Eric Hyman and Spurrier.

"We’ve all three given him guidelines, and we’ll see how he follows those," said Spurrier, adding that a decision on Garcia probably wouldn’t be made until this summer.

Spurrier said he’s talked with Garcia recently and that Garcia is on track to graduate in May as long as he passes the courses he’s taking this semester.

"With his degree in hand, he’s eligible to play anywhere in the country and he’s got another year remaining," Spurrier said. "Hopefully, it will work out that he’ll be back with us with maybe a lot better attitude than he’s ever had."

The article doesn't specify what these guidelines are, but one can gather from the grapevine that they include staying afloat academically, dealing with any perceived problem with alcohol, and not being a part of any more "incidents." Garcia has to know that he's on thin ice right now, so regardless of what his longterm plans are, I would wager that he'll at the very least clean up his act for the next few months, rejoin the team sometime during the summer, and then make the start against East Carolina. That is, unless Connor Shaw or Dylan Thompson morphs into a great quarterback over the summer and steals the starting spot, which seems unlikely at this point, although I'm holding out hope for Shaw.

Frankly, I'm somewhat ambivalent about this decision. As I've expressed in the past, I can see the argument for dismissing Garcia from the team. That said, I can also see the argument against harshly punishing someone for a minor incident, regardless of how many times that person has screwed up in the past, and I also feel that if part of Garcia's problem is alcohol and he's shown interest in taking active steps to get his drinking habits under control, he should be given a chance to do that without any further consequences. Garcia is a screw-up and a head case, but it's not like he's an unrepentant criminal or someone who isn't redeemable, and perhaps we should take that into consideration.

He's also not a bad quarterback, needless to say, and he'll probably be our best option for getting back to Atlanta. I would hate to know that Hyman and Spurrier let things slide with Garcia because they feel Garcia is a key component to the football team, but if they really feel that Garcia is going to get his act together, then I can't say I'm not not happy that we're still going to have him for what he brings on the field.

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Yeah, I concur.

As long as he is currently taking steps to curtail now or down the line whatever bad behavior is getting him in trouble, be it alcoholism or what have you, and playing on the football team is not somehow a spark for this bad behavior, then I’m fine with him playing this season.

stuff 'bout stuff.

by silver82blade on Apr 20, 2011 5:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, that's kind of my thinking.

I know some may see this as being too permissive, but I tend to be on the side of being compassionate to people like Garcia, as long as they’re not doing something that makes them totally irredeemable.

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by Gamecock Man on Apr 20, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would be a shame not to have Garcia for more glorious year...

Its like having Todd Ellis at QB but only more fun in some sort of perverse way. If anything the kid has been the most interesting QB at Carolina in the last 25 years. (you could argue for Tanneyhill here).

by loop4zill on Apr 20, 2011 6:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Seems Garcia will

give us something to talk about until August.

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by Flounder on Apr 21, 2011 8:37 AM EDT reply actions  

yes.

But let’s try to stay focused on baseball. It’s nice to come here and see all the reports of the baseball team.

And I certainly found myself cheering for Clemson vs UGA. I really hate UGA.

- FOW

by skandrewj62j on Apr 21, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm kind of ambivalent on UGA / Clemson, too.

No offense to the nice UGA fans who read this blog (like AuditDawg), of course.

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by Gamecock Man on Apr 21, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

no way

UGA will always be above clempson in my book.

by Gamecockrock on Apr 21, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am from Atlanta

and tired of dealing the AJC style of Dawg fans. Every team has this type of fans. I just happen to be surrounded by the UGA variety.

so, Go Taters! Beat the Dogs!

- FOW

by skandrewj62j on Apr 21, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm from ATL, too.

But UGA vs. Clemson might be the only time I can sincerely root for UGA. I’ll probably be rooting for them to beat Boise St. too this coming football season.

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by The Feathered Warrior on Apr 21, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think I'd ever go to the extent of pulling for Clemson over UGA...

But I’m certainly not rooting my pants off for UGA like I am when other teams play Clemmy. There’s something about the way UGA fans are so snidely condescending towards USC that really drives me up the wall. At least Clemson admits they care about the rivalry when they say they hate us. The UGA fans I’m talking about spend all their time taking pot shots at us all the while saying that they don’t really consider us to be their rivals. I’ve actually spoken to Clemson fans who feel the same way, as it seems lots of UGA fans are condescending to Clemson, as well. To UGA fans, only Florida is good enough to be UGA’s rival, which is of course ridiculous considering that UGA has not been any more competitive with Florida than anyone else has in the past 20 years. Like Andrew said, we’re talking about a small percentage of the total fanbase, but it’s a vocal group.

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by Gamecock Man on Apr 21, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hold up a second...

I’m only condescending to Auburn fans. I take offense to that. ;)

But overall, I agree with your comments. Being from Augusta I suppose I can appreciate the Carolina game a bit more than most UGA fans, but I definitely understand the sentiment you feel there. I think that it’s honestly a result of UGA becoming less the state university, but more like what I like to refer to as the “University of metro-Atlanta”.

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by AuditDawg on Apr 21, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

As an addendum

However, in fairness to my Dawg brethren; the overall series between UGA and Carolina is more comparable to our series with Vanderbilt than it is to Florida. There is at least some historical basis to the condescending nature.

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by AuditDawg on Apr 21, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's true of the overall series...

But as you know, 90% of Vandy’s victories over UGA happened decades ago, the same is true to a lesser extent for most of UGA’s victories over Florida, and UGA-USC has been much closer in the past 25 years or so than it was back in the 50-70s. In other words, the condescension may have a historical basis, but it doesn’t say as much about the current state of the series.

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by Gamecock Man on Apr 22, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sir, this is the internet

Don’t try to bring those kinds of facts in to dispute my analysis. ;)

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by AuditDawg on Apr 22, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

You fools. I was rooting for UGA hard!

My dislike for Clemmy trumps all.

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by Gamecock'n'Balls on Apr 22, 2011 7:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Heh. I'm sure the truth is somewhere in between both sides.

My impression is that USC fans want to believe the series is even, which it’s not, even in the more recent, competitive years, while UGA fans want to believe that they still completely own the series. UGA fans love to talk about the good old days, whereas USC fans love to talk about moral victories. I guess the stereotypes do have some truth to them.

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by Gamecock Man on Apr 22, 2011 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

BTW, though...

That Vandy comment is complete nonsense, and we both know it. I’ve seen Kyle pull that one before, too. Does the comparison between the two overall series really mean all that much when the UGA-Vandy series hasn’t been competitive since the 50s or so and the USC-UGA series has become increasingly competitive since 80 or so? We’re living in the present here. College football is a different world than what it was in the 50s.

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by Gamecock Man on Apr 22, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's a fair point

Vandy’s probably not the best comparison, since they haven’t really been very competitive with anybody (aside from that weird 5-0 start in 2008) since well before both you and I were born. I also agree with the commentsI’ve seen you make elsewhere that Carolina’s biggest challenge has always been keeping guys like Lattimore/Jeffrey/Gilmore/Clowney from going elsewhere. I honestly can’t remember a time during my lifetime where Carolina has had this much talent on hand at one time. I do believe this series will get a lot more competitive going forward based on the foundations Spurrier is laying even if the big payoff comes with whoever follows Spurrier.

All that said, facts are facts, and even if we look at the series record starting in 1980 (I think 30 years is a fair starting point considering our ages), the series still favors UGA at 20 wins to Carolina’s 9. That 69% clip roughly approximates the entire history of the series which is at a 73% clip in favor of UGA. So while the Vandy comparison may be a bad one (and admittedly done to poke a little bit of fun), and the games have been very close in recent years, I feel like it’s going to take some more wins by Carolina before most UGA fans start taking this game seriously. Plus, Georgia Tech fans are the certified owner of moral victories against UGA (They genuinely believe that because games are competitive means they might as well count those as W’s when evaluating their season – Mark Richt’s 9-1 record suggests otherwise but hey, it’s hard to argue with stupidity). You’re much better than that. :)

BTW, I saw your exchange over at RBR about Garcia. Alabama fans never cease to amaze me in their belief that Nick Saban is somehow above all the shenanigans that affect other programs and they can just look down on the rest of us inferior programs from their ivory tower over there. They tried to make a point out the other day (in the wake of the recruit that got arrested for stealing items from the UGA locker room on his visit) that Nick Saban somehow does a better job of shunning these bad apples before they get to campus. I had to kindly point out that not only does the arrested recruit have an outstanding offer from Alabama, but the great shunner of bad apples himself offered Zach Mettenberger after he’d been kicked off UGA’s team after pleading guilty (emphasis added) of sexual battery as well as offered Montez Robinson during the high school recruiting process (who has been subsequently kicked off UGA’s team after a domestic assault arrest). You want to talk about UGA fans being condescending. Hoo boy, Alabama fans take the cake on that.

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by AuditDawg on Apr 22, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

UGA and Bama remind me of the Cabots and the Lodges ...

from the 19th centurny, when it was said that the Cabots speak only to the Lodges and the Lodges speak only to God. I will leave it to y’all to figure out which program is which.

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by tryptic67 on Apr 22, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alabama fans are on a different level of stupid than the rest of us can contend with, that much I'll quickly grant you. That said, we don't play Alabama every year, so I don't get too fired up over anything they do.

As far as the rest of your comments go, I think they’re pretty reasonable. I’m definitely not trying to say that I think UGA should see USC as a peer program, although I hope that day will come soon. I just want a little bit of respect, dammit. Just a bit. Ha!

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by Gamecock Man on Apr 22, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's how I feel about Florida
I’m definitely not trying to say that I think UGA should see USC as a peer program, although I hope that day will come soon. I just want a little bit of respect, dammit. Just a bit. Ha!

I’m not trying to poke the stick at you guys or anything, but the way you guys feel about us is basically the same way we feel about Florida. We feel like we should be on even ground and even have a win or two over them, but the reality is that it’s been pretty damned lopsided in their favor in recent history and we desperately want that to change. Unfortunately, the only way to change it is to start winning multiple games in a row. Fortunately for me, I’ve already accepted that going 11-1 would be considered undefeated because a loss in Jacksonville is about as certain as death and taxes.

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by AuditDawg on Apr 22, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carolina is the division champ.

If that hasn’t sunk in for the rest of the conference, then that’s their problem. Until someone else is the champ, they have nothing to say.

stuff 'bout stuff.

by silver82blade on Apr 22, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

True, but I feel like we need to do a bit more to prove it wasn't a fluke.

Miss. St. won the West in 1999. It doesn’t mean they’re on a level with ’Bama, LSU, and Auburn.

We need to win it again this year, and hopefully win the conference, too, and make it to a BCS Bowl.

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by Gamecock Man on Apr 22, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

In other words...

We’ve got a lot of history to make up for.

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by Gamecock Man on Apr 22, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

We have nothing to prove.

We played twelve games last year proving it. It’s up to the other five teams to prove they can beat us.

stuff 'bout stuff.

by silver82blade on Apr 22, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're right that we're on top right now.

But we have plenty to prove. Any team can pull off a good season every now and then. Only a few teams can do it regularly. The latter is where we want to be, and we’re not there yet. We haven’t even won a single SEC title yet. Florida, UGA, and UT each have several.

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by Gamecock Man on Apr 22, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right, I agree with that.

But Now is this season. Not last season’s SEC East crown. We need to prove it again this year that we are the best in the East. And then again, and again, and again.
Now we need to beat Georgia, and Florida, and Auburn, and Arkansas, and Tennessee and Clemson. And everyone else on the schedule. I’m not saying we’ll go undefeated. But if other teams are going to cite our history, fine. play with a chip on you shoulder and prove to them that now South Carolina is a team to beat. Don’t get caught up in that SEC East championship. Because like he said look at Miss State. One time 12 years ago isn’t satisfactory.

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by skandrewj62j on Apr 25, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I'll be rooting for them against Boise St.

I expect UGA to win that game. I think Boise lost a lot of players. My disdain for UGA comes from a couple places. The vocal minority of fans. The ones that offer no rebuttal, in stead just scream “GO DAWGS! WOOF WOOF WOOF!” and the heartbreaking losses that we have had the last few years. 41-37 in 2009, 12-7 in 2008. But especially the 13-6 in 2002.

- FOW

by skandrewj62j on Apr 22, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I second that emotion

I will be rooting for UGA on 9.3 to beat the blue field prima donnas, and then want the earth to swallow Athens (after we get out of there with a W) on 9.10.

They wore garnet helmets.

by tryptic67 on Apr 22, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

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