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Attention Dan Beebe: A Plan to Save the Big XII

(I originally wrote most of this as a comment at TSK, but I decided to make it my first GABA FanPost.  Thanks for any feedback)

Attention Dan Beebe.   This is your Guardian Angel.   College football is in danger.  Your conference is in danger.  Heck your job is in danger.  Act now.  Save CFB!  Save the Big XI!.   Save yourself!   Here is the plan.   Don't wait another minute.

1. Convene the Presidents and have them authorize immediate bids to TCU and Boise State - they will say yes right away.   They crave BCS conference membership with every fiber of their being and TCU's Big East experiment was always misbegotten.   Right now they are top football programs.  We all know they will fall back to earth eventually and return to their doormat status.   But that is in the future.  Now they have football cachet.   They don't do a damn thing for basketball but that is of zero concern.   Football is king.   Tell the Presidents you don't give a fig about their academics and neither should they.  Now they are valuable television commodities and if the Big XII doesn't get a TV deal, then most of them will be wandering in the wilderness for the next generation.  Exploit TCU and Boise now.  TCU is a replacement for Texas A&M.   Boise replaces Nebraska.   This makes so much sense I can't believe you've waited this long.  

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2.  Get the presidents to also authorize BYU.  If BYU has any sense, they'll realize this is *not* the time to be an independent, unless they want to see themselves lose permanent ground to the Utes. BYU's football tradition speaks for itself.   Give BYU a week to think it over.  If the Cougars say no, then immediately offer either Colorado State or the US Air Force Academy.   Sonny Lubick's old team is down, but you've got to think CSU will jump -and you get the added bonus of sticking it to the disloyal Buffs; imagine the horror in Boulder when CU is not the only BCS-eligible team in the Centennial State.  If the Presidents are balky about CSU's academics, then Air Force's reputation speaks for itself, plus the Falcons traditionally play the best ball of the service academies - the Presidents cannot seriously say no to that.   No matter what, you need a team to replace Colorado - either in the Centennial State or in the Beehive State.  It doesn''t matter who.  But it must happen now.   The Big XII must get back to 12 members so that it can have a championship game and this is the easiest solution to a viable northern division; the fact the north is so wide open will be attractive to hold Mizzou (who covets a B1G membership that may never come this go-around) and maybe, just maybe be attractive for ...

3.  Notre Dame. Yes I know they've said no a few weeks ago, but then you really haven't made the hard sell, and now the Big East is disentegrating before their eyes. This is the big prize.  Land the Irish and all is forgiven  You must begin public courting now.   Tell the Domers that they'd be a great fit.  Everyone knows the Irish will ultimately need a conference home - they just can't do it on their own anymore. Sell them on the entree it gives to Texas recruiting, in addition to their national recruiting. You can sweeten the deal by getting the members to agree to give ND a Texas-like revenue split.  Notre Dame offers immediate football cachet.  Huskers?  I hardly knew ye.  Tell them how wide-open the North Division is.  Once Boise State returns to earth (not long after Kellen Moore is drafted next year and/or Chris Petersen takes the big $$$ somewhere) they would dominate Boise, KU, KSU, ISU.  With a conference schedule like that, they can still play B1G schools on a regular basis.    Offer them a full non-football membership and tell them you will hold a 14th football slot just for them.   Even if the Irish say no, you've lost nothing. 

4. If the Irish say yes to full membership or partial membership then offer Rice or Houston.  I’d vote RIce because every football conference needs a top flight academic school that has de-emphasized big-time football but still desperately craves to beat the big boys at their own game (e.g., Vandy, Northwestern, Stanford). Houston is probably more realistic from a revenue standpoint.   But Cougar High was always a johnny-come-lately to the old SWC.  Under this scenario you have a North Division consisting of Boise, BYU, Mizzo, ISU, KU, KSU and maybe the Irish; the Southern Division is UT, TT, BU, TCU, Rice (or Houston), OU and OSU - nothing changed here except TCU replaces A&M and you've added a Houston-market school.

5. Go to Austin. Tell UT what everyone knows - their overreach has put them in danger of losing one of the sweetest deals in CFB .  Remind them that the PAC will force them to leave a conference schedule based heavily in the Lone Star State (comfort zone!) and travel across three time zone and 2/3 of the continent; plus they will not get to dictate the money and they certainly won't get to keep their network. Frankly, I don’t think UT wants to go to the Pac-12/16 unless its forced to (though I could be wrong).  Let the Horns save face.  Tell them that they can keep their network and their split, especially if they help land Notre Dame, but to stay put.  

6.  If the Irish rebuff you, but you've kept Texas and OU, then don't sweat. Go to 14 by picking up not only TCU, Boise and BYU, but offer USAFA  and Rice or Houston (or both if BYU said no).  Sweeten the deal for OU and OSU by offering to move them out of UT's division, so that they can play for the Big XII championship.  UT will like that just fine, since it means they can drop the Red River Rivalry game but still play for the championship.   If you don't want to cal the new divisions North and South, then call them East and West.   Or Southwest and Northeast.   Or Cactus and Prairie Dog.  I don't care.   Make one division:   UT, TT, BU, TCU, BYU, USAFA and Boise.    Make the next division:  OU, OSU, Mizzou, KU, KSU, ISU and Rice (or Houston).  Mizzou will bitch about getting stuck with the two Sooner State schools, but tell em to shut their yaps - if the B1G wanted them, they'd already have called.  That phone ain't ringing.  Deal.     

Either way, this plan saves the Big XII.   Either the old Northern and Southern Divisions are re-instituted or there are new divisions that make immediate sense.  Either you land the 800 lb Marlin that is Notre Dame, or at least you can say you made a reel effort (ok bad pun) to catch them.   Regardless, you now have a 13 or 14 team conference with teams in or near Houston, Dallas-Fort Worth, Salt Lake City and Denver, with national powers Texas and Oklahoma still in the fold, and maybe just maybe you've got Notre Dame (even if for non-football only).   

The big question, Dan, is whether you've got the gumption to do it?   Right now Mike Slive, Larry Scott and Jim Delaney are killing you, and John Swofford is out-hustling you.   It's do or die time.   Be a hero or be a footnote.  

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when Swofford out hustles you , you are fucked . Beebe is as good as dead as is the Big 12

by 5knklshfl on Sep 20, 2011 2:56 AM EDT reply actions  

No doubt

It’s amazing to me that he’s being knocked to the mat without throwing a punch. It’s even more amazing that the Big XII presidents are apparently willing to let him flap limply in the breeze while others ride the realignment winds.

Here's a health, Carolina, forever to thee! UNIVERSITAS CAROLIN MERID. 1801 Emollit mores nec sinit esse feros (Ovid)

by tryptic67 on Sep 20, 2011 7:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Notre Dame and Texas in the same conference?

I would pay to be a fly on the well when those two are trying to out-pomp each other at the conference meetings.

It’s a nice thought, but I just can’t see Notre Dame joining a conference as long as they’re in bed with NBC – they could switch their Olympic sports conference affiliation, though, in light of the Big East’s falling apart.

I’ve always thought that the Big 12ish’s main problem was they’re appeasement strategy when it came to Texas. You can’t have a good working relationship (or any relationship for that matter) when one party sees itself as more important than everyone else. They should have told Texas from the get-go that it either receives the same treatment as everyone else or it can walk. Had that been the case I think the Big 12ish would still be in fine shape and maybe they would be the big movers in expansion talk right now. Oh well, I guess no one asked me.

Dum spiro spero - "While I breathe, I hope"
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by The Feathered Warrior on Sep 20, 2011 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

The pomposity factor would be off the charts

but maybe they would balance each other out.

I spent some time digging into the Big XII revenue scheme and it’s not so cut-and-dry as Texas gets a bigger share, though that is the practical effect.

This is an interesting article from earlier this year that looks at some of the Big XII revenue numbers.

I completely agree with you that even shares is the way to go to keep the conference peace. But I think I am on firm ground to say that Texas is more important to the Big XII than any other one school is to any other one (BCS) conference.

Here's a health, Carolina, forever to thee! UNIVERSITAS CAROLIN MERID. 1801 Emollit mores nec sinit esse feros (Ovid)

by tryptic67 on Sep 20, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

"I think I am on firm ground to say that Texas is more important to the Big XII than any other one school is to any other one (BCS) conference."

I agree wholly, I just think it didn’t have to be that way. Oklahoma, Nebraska, and Texas A&M carry a lot of weight in the college football universe. Imagine a Big 12ish that was created without Texas. Right now that conference would probably be adding TCU, Boise St. and possibly even Texas. It paints a much different picture than we’re presented with now.

Dum spiro spero - "While I breathe, I hope"
State motto of South Carolina

by The Feathered Warrior on Sep 20, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good read. I like your ideas.

Especially trying to add TCU, BYU and Boise State. They could also look at Southern Miss or maybe Tulsa, if they absolutely had to. (ie Air Force and everyone else said no.)

But apparently Oklahoma has its own message for Dan Beebe and that message is GTFO!

- FOW

by skandrewj62j on Sep 21, 2011 8:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks and good link

I can sense why the member schools are frustrated. Perhaps not all of the blame belongs on Dan Beebe’s shoulders, but no fair judge could deny either that he has played a big role in the Big XII’s crack-up.

My personal feeling is that the Big XII would be reluctant to cherry pick from the C-USA when there are equally good if not better MW and WAC schools available. I know that Notre Dame is a long shot (and at TSK, some of the commenters on this similar post really pooh-poohed even thinking about ND, but part of the point is that even if ND is almost certain to say no, you should ask anyway to be proactive – right now passivity is killing the Big XII).

The doomsday option (if UT and OU bail, either with or without TT and OSU), would be to still go after BYU, Boise and TCU, then partner up with Louisville, Cincinnati and WVU – which are all legit BCS-conference teams that will not be getting invites into the SEC, ACC or B1G. South Florida is another option.

There will never be a true merger with the Big East and the Big XII. If the Big East survives, it is likely as a north-eastern/mid-western non-football league with teams like Georgetown, ’Nova, Providence, Marquette, etc.

Here's a health, Carolina, forever to thee! UNIVERSITAS CAROLIN MERID. 1801 Emollit mores nec sinit esse feros (Ovid)

by tryptic67 on Sep 21, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Notre Dame

I don’t know how strongly the Big East tried to force the issue with Notre Dame either joining in Football or leaving altogether. If the Big East does disintegrate, to the extent that it is no longer what Notre Dame considers worthy competition for its olympic sports then it will look elsewhere and would probably be required to join as a football program in order for its olympic sports to find a home.

This of course depends on what happens to the Big East. I forget how new the UConn football program is, which makes the pizza bowl hurt even more. I really thought UConn would be a good fit for the ACC. I mean heck, the conference already goes from Miami to Boston…. what’s one more team in the middle? The point with UConn is they have a terrific Athletic Department, IMHO, and a decent football team, probably on par with NC State or better, why would the ACC turn them down? Unless UNC and Duke blocked it because they are too good at Bball (men and women).

Sorry for the UConn tangent, but it is pertinent to the discussion of the future of the Big East, which affects Notre Dame. That’ll be interesting to watch.

- FOW

by skandrewj62j on Sep 21, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

why would the ACC turn [UConn] down?

From what I think I know (which could be seriously flawed!), the ACC always wanted Syracuse. Left to their own devices, the ACC/Swofford would have taken the ’Cuse in the 04-05 realignment, but UVA was coerced by the Virgina legislature to push for Virginia Tech. So it makes sense that Syracuse would be ACC Team # 13.

As for ACC Team # 16, they have the pick of the litter between Pitt, WVU, Rutgers and UConn. Pitt and WVU are traditional football powers that play ok basketball. Rutgers is the flagship NJ school, but has never performed consistently at a high level on the gridiron or in hoops. UConn is a basketball powerhouse that’s built a nice football team in Storrs.

So why Pitt? I don’t know.

Geography-wise, WVU is a better fit. It’s a stone’s-throw from Washington, D.C. and Pittsburgh. It is a good but not overpowering football school. It will not upset the balance of basektball power in the league. It already has traditional rivalries with the Terps, Hokies and Hurricanes, and a natural rivalry-in-the-making with UVA. It has passionate fans and brings in an entire state for tv (albeit a small one). Likely the Mountaineer’s biggest problem is that it has a US News national university ranking of #164 which is definitely below the salt in the ACC.

The rest of the league is ranked much higher academically (Duke – 10; UVA – 25; WF-25; UNC-29; BC – 31; GT-36; Miami-38; UMd- 58; Clem-68; VaTech-71; NCSU-101, FSU-101). The ‘Cuse come in at # 62 so they’re right there. Remember that its the presidents who do the inviting, and while the average fan is interested in the immediate sports impact, the presidents almost always (especially in the ACC) judge members on academic parity not sports parity. It’s the last vestige of college sports where its not totally driven by athletic star power or revenue. Maybe that’s such a bad thing.

Pitt by contrast to WVU comes in with a national ranking of 58 that puts it squarely in the middle of the ACC pack academically-speaking. Plus they’re in the Pittsburgh market rather than just nearby, and solidifies the ACC brand in the Keystone state.

Frankly, it probably was a toss-up between Pitt, Connecticut and Rutgers. U-Conn is another tied-for-58 school. The U-of-NJ-by-another-name has US News ranking of 68.
Again both middle of the ACC pack. If there’s going to be a Team 15 and 16, then its likely to be the Huskies and Scarlet Knights.

Maybe UConn’s public basketball woes made the Tobacco Row boys squeamish for now. Or B.C. wanted to be the only big conference school in New England. Stay tuned though – things are likely to change fast.

Here's a health, Carolina, forever to thee! UNIVERSITAS CAROLIN MERID. 1801 Emollit mores nec sinit esse feros (Ovid)

by tryptic67 on Sep 21, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

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