Gamecock Football Recruiting: How important is it to get another DE in this class?
As we draw closer and closer to National Signing Day, it seems like Lorenzo "Whammy" Ward, the University of South Carolina's new defensive coordinator, has taken up residence in North Georgia - burning up the rubber from Atlanta to Tucker, from Tucker to McDonough, and back to Atlanta again.
Whammy hasn't camped out in the Empire State of the South simply to shop along Peachtree Avenue, or to sight-see in the scenic Blue Ridge Mountains. Instead, he's been hunting big game - and the trophy of choice appears to be at least one of three, top-flight defensive end prospects - Josh Dawson (Tucker), Kenderius Whitehead (Atlanta) and Davlin Tomlison (McDonough).
Why the emphasis on defensive ends? Are these simply the best guys left open on our board? Or do we have a pressing need to bring another top DE to the Palmetto Proving Grounds? Based on Whammy's sojourns across the Savannah River, the answer seems really clear - we need another pass rusher. And we need him now.
During the 2011 season, the Gamecocks had nine DE's on the roster - seniors Melvin Ingram and Byron McKnight, juniors Devin Taylor and Aldrick Fordham, sophomores Chaz Sutton and Jamal Hall and freshmen Jadaveon Clowney, Gerald "Little G" Dixon and Mason Harris.
Ingram and McKnight have graduated and finished their football careers at Carolina.
Of the remaining DEs expected to return for 2012, only Taylor, Clowney and Sutton saw any significant p.t. at DE, and Clowney and Sutton were back-ups (yes - even the vaunted Jadeveon).
Even though listed as a DE, Fordham - who is a bit undersized but a smart player - primarily lined up at defensive tackle. Hall was a walk-on who had had no stats for 2011; Little G Dixon and Harris - both three star rated 2011 recruits - redshirted.
Consequently, that leaves just three returning DE veterans (Taylor, Clowney and Sutton) plus Fordham - who can play DT, DE or LB - and these four will likely comprise the two-deep going into spring ball, with Dixon and Harris competing in the mix. That is dangerously thin for such a physical and important position; a season-ending injury, suspension or transfer would leave us teetering on the edge of disaster - two such losses would be nothing less than catastrophic to the defense. Even if everyone remains healthy, as Gamecock Man recently commented, we're potentially facing a DE numbers deficit by 2013-2014, with Taylor exhausting his eligibility next year and Clowney likely to depart for the NFL after the 2013 season.
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In terms of the current 2012 recruiting class, we cannot count on much immediate help. Only two DE have made commitments to this point - Darius English of Powder Springs, GA (247 4 stars, ESPN 3 stars, Scout 3 stars, Rivals 3 stars) and Jhaustin Thomas of Decatur, Georgia (247, ESPN, Scout, Rivals 3 stars). Both English and Thomas are solid prospects, but absent some sort of cosmic jump in their athletic prowess or technique, neither is going to be ready to go against SEC OL in 2012. In a perfect world, both would - and likely should- redshirt. Additionally, the word on Jhaustin "Dooby" Thomas is that he has work to do to qualify academically so we may have to wait for him to go the j.c. route.
USC had previously put heavy emphasis on recruiting both DE Tyriq McCord of Tampa (a consensus 4 star across the board) and DE Jonathan Bullard of Shelby, NC (Rivals/Scout 5 stars and ESPN/247 4 stars). Both of these young men had the upside to play as true freshmen and we had hoped to land at least one of them; unfortunately, McCord picked Miami and Bullard gave his pledge to Florida.
Based on their recruiting ranks, Dawson, Whitehead and Tomlinson appear to be more in the immediate impact-player range than either English or Thomas (which is not to say English and Thomas might not be just as good or better over the long-haul - this analysis is limited to their ability to make a significant contribution in 2012).
Dawson is rated as 4 star by Scout and Rivals (ESPN and 247 score him as a high 3).
Whitehead is a 4 star per ESPN and 247 (a 3 star per Rivals and Scout).
Davlin Tomlinson plays DT at his high school, but his frame and size (6'3"-270), plus his athleticism [he is a state champion wrestler] make him look like a natural DE. 247, Rivals and Scout tag him as a 4 star (ESPN ranks him as a 3 star).
We need to be realistic that it's a long-shot to pick up any of these "new" targets. Dawson still considers himself a Vanderbilt commitment. Tomlinson has long been rumored to favor Georgia Tech and Bama. As recently as this week, Whitehead was publicly stating he had narrowed his choices to Clemson and NC State. It's actually a very good sign of Whammy Ward's recruiting ability - magnified by his recent promotion from position coach to D.C. - that he can get these three to consider South Carolina as a serious possibility (and to at least schedule official visits) this late in the game. With the numbers situation being what they are, we can probably only take one of these troika no matter what.
In any event, the answer to our question of the importance of getting another DE is a resounding 'yes'. It won't be the end of the world if we fall short on Dawson, Whitehead or Tomlinson, of course. And there's always the chance that an unheralded DT or LB on the team might be moved to DE.
But all things being equal, we need to land a third, pure DE for 2012, and he needs to have the upside to compete for playing time in the fall.
You know it. Whammy knows it, too.
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Great article.
I didn’t think about the team being thin at the DE position, and now that you put it in those terms, I badly hope we can acquire some depth there.
Btw, why the asterisks in your post after 247***, Rivals***, etc?
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
Was trying to give the number of stars awarded by the particular service
by using a corresponding number of asterisks. Sorry it was confusing …
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Edited out the pesky asterisks
so hope it reads better. And glad you enjoyed the article.
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Ah ha, gotcha.
Now I feel dumb lol.
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
In other news, I just read that Miles will be returning.
Will he be Lattimore’s #1 backup?
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
Mmmmm ... got a link? Yould should post it in a fan shot
I think it’s wide open between Miles, Carson, Wilds and Mike Davis for the number 2 spot, but Kenny’s got to like his chances after three years in the program. That assumes Lattimore can make a full recovery by August camp. Like wilmywood, I have serious concerns Marcus can make it back in a year … but if anyone can, it would be Marcus.
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There are still conflicting reports at this point.
Some have said that Kenny told Spurrier he’s coming back. Others claim to have sources who believe he hasn’t made up his mind yet. If I were advising him, I would tell him to transfer. The backfield is going to be very crowded next year.
No idea
Yall were so thin depth wise there. Clemson may have lil worse. One starter at end is back & other,has some game exp, but notto terribly much. Same issue at DT too. Why I was so hoping we cld steal Bullard, & thought we had shot until I was sitting in Orange Bowl watching Train play half show. Thinking during that, that,whatever chance was officially gone. Btw, late tonight Venables comfirmed hes accpeted DC job. Think we will have lotta issues on BOTH lines nxt yr. Least few of the fresh OLmen enrolled early. Think over 80% of enitre team will b fresh or soph. Thats scary. Wld b “good” scary if we didnt have snakeoil salesman as a HC. Sorry for Tiger rant, didnt intend to ramble on
by TigerFan7474 on Jan 19, 2012 2:08 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Thanks for stopping by
I’m curious to see how Chad Morris and Robbie Caldwell are going to work out; I think Caldwell will rebuild the CU OL to the way it used to be … big, deep and tough … but he needs some freedom. I think you’re right that if Clemson has an achilles heel in 2012, it’s going to be on both lines. The offensive skill players are top notch. You won’t get much argument here that Dabo has a bit of the snake-oil salesman in him, but to be fair he is one of the South’s top recruiters and he’s delivered two ACCCG appearances in three years.
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Darius English said after his visit that the coaches do not plan to redshirt him.
They said that he will have a chance to play right away, primarily on passing downs.
Brad Lawing has said in interviews that they really like to go after raw athletes for the defensive line who maybe don’t quite yet have the football skills that translate into high star ratings. Devin Taylor and Melvin Ingram were not highly sought after prospects for these reasons.
Obviously, all else equal, you’d rather have the four and five star guys, but given this coaching staff’s track record with talent evaluation, I’m not too worried about it. I’m a little concerned about what happens after Devin Taylor graduates, but I’m not so worried about it for 2012. Taylor and Clowney haven’t had any health issues and most teams are a couple of key injuries away from being in serious trouble.
Good points
The angle I was taking wasn’t as much from the aspect of our talent-spotting or player-development abilities; I completely agree that the staff (particularly Brad Lawing) has built an impressive track record in that department.
And you’re totally right that the injury bug can strike any team and turn what might have been a great season into a mediocre one, and a mediocre season into a debacle (e.g., Tennessee in 2011).
But looking back to 2008 … we’ve started Cliff Matthews, Clifton Geathers, Melvin Ingram, Devin Taylor and Jordin Lindsey at DE and all were 4 stars or better except Taylor and Lindsey; all have been All-SEC (except Geathers, who probably could have been had he stayed his senior season; and Lindsey). Taylor was a 3 star, Lindsey a 2 star. *
I’m not trying to undersell English or Thomas (it’s cool English has been told he won’t have to wear a redshirt), but from a raw numbers standpoint, I think a good argument can be made that we’re still thin at DE, especially if there are legit concerns Thomas won’t matriculate this Fall.
Assuming Jhaustin is a non-qualifier, peering into the future, we’ll have Clowney and Sutton as likely starters going into 2013, and hope we don’t bust on Little G, Harris or English, otherwise we’ll need to find a pass rusher from the tackles or linebackers (which might happen anyway).
*Note – all rankings per Rivals; I am counting Norwood as a LB].
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