Numbers Crunch: Post Signing Day Edition
As you no doubt recall, 22 football players signed Letters of Intent on Wednesday to play with the South Carolina Gamecocks in 2012. An additional three players (Brock Stadnik, Clayton Stadnik, and Kelvin Rainey) enrolled early for the spring semester.
That gives Steve Spurrier 25 incoming players and only 17 available scholarships. So what does that mean? We've been tracking this issue for some time now, but now that we know the size of the incoming class, it's easier to speculate about what cuts will need to be made. Sometime between now and the fall, 8 players currently on the scholarship roster must be removed from it. Where will these eight players come from?
Fifth Year Players
As I've begun to look back through what happened to previous years' recruiting classes, I've noticed that the practice of nudging out fifth year players who already have their degrees -- and are making or are expected to make minimal contributions to the team - is much more common than I remember.
This is what became of Eric Baker and what appeared to be happening to Kenny Miles. Until it wasn't. And then it was again. The last credible report came from the mouth of Miles' high school coach who said that the redshirt senior is still weighing his options, wanting to make sure that - wherever he is - he's going to play in 2012. That might be a dicey proposition at South Carolina, where new running backs coach Everette Sands' cup runneth over with talented running backs. Honestly, where does Miles fall on a depth chart that features Marcus Lattimore, Brandon Wilds, Shon Carson, and Mike Davis?
Kenny Davis seems like another candidate to leave the team. Davis came in with the 2008 class as a three-star defensive tackle out of Newberry High, redshirting during his first year on campus. He played sparingly in 2009 and 2010 before being moved to offensive guard in 2011, a year in which he never saw the field.
Qua Gilchrist is another possibility. The linebacker from Abbeville, SC only played in 3 games in 2011, recording just one tackle. (That doesn't match my recollection. I seem to remember seeing him on the field more often, but those are the numbers I got from the the athletic department's website.)
Going out on a bit of a limb, I'll submit that parting ways with D.L. Moore might not be the worst idea. I keep waiting him for him to break out and become at least a decent backup, yet he continues to disappoint. D.L. played in 11 games in 2011, with just 8 catches for 52 yards.
Non-Qualifiers
Jhaustin Thomas is the only incoming player that people are openly talking about having some academic hurdles to clear. Apparently he has to have a pretty serious improvement in his ACT score if he's going to qualify. I've heard people on the radio (Jim Baxter, Chris Clark) and "insiders" on other sites allude to at least a second player having academic issues, but I haven't been able to figure out who that might be. Two would be an unusually low number of non-qualifiers, so maybe there are others that we don't know about.
Greyshirts
Kendric Salley injured his knee during his senior season at Williston Elko and is not expected to be ready for the start of fall practice. Salley maintains that the coaching staff has never broached the subject of greyshirting, but this is still something to keep an eye on.
Two Sport Players
Bruce Ellington remains inscrutable on the question of whether he will choose to focus on one sport next year and, if so, which one. Everyone's hunch seems to be that it would be basketball, but it's not entirely clear on what these hunches are based - and honestly, if I had the kid's ear, I'd tell him to get as far away from Darrin Horn's basketball program as possible. Besides, Devan Downey-lite isn't exactly a skills profile that screams "future NBA player."
As with D.L. Moore, I feel like I'm stepping out on a limb with this one: Shon Carson. This is wild speculation, and I'd guess that the possibility of this happening is extremely remote, but since the possibility exists at all and there don't seem to be many other possibilities, it's at least something worth exploring hypothetically. Carson is probably a better baseball than football prospect at the next level. He was taken in the 44th round of the MLB draft out of high school and expressed some regret via his Twitter feed at not seizing the opportunity to turn pro. He later recanted, stating that he was quoting a song lyric, but I must confess that I'm ignorant as to which artist the line "I shoulda gone pro" belongs. Admittedly, the kid is going through a lot. I can't imagine what it would be like to have everything riding on your legs and suddenly have them fail you. So maybe the tweet was just an act of frustration. After all, anyone who follows him knows that he isn't particularly discriminating when it comes to deciding which of his thoughts are worth sharing with the public.
Currently Suspended Players
Byron Jerideau and Brison Williams are currently suspended indefinitely from the team. I wouldn't think that either of their actions (Jerideau, Williams) are worthy of getting kicked off the team, but you never know with this stuff. Williams in particular would be expected to contribute in 2012.
Doing the Math
The players mentioned above total ten, but a few of them aren't very realistic candidates to leave or be dismissed from the team. More likely, it will be some combination of the more obvious choices above and others that we won't see coming.
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Ellington...
I know it’s been said before, but it should be said again—yes, the NBA is probably a long shot, but Ellington can make millions playing basketball in Europe, and he’s every bit good enough to do so. Plus, he seems to like basketball more—why do you think he started out only playing basketball?
I like all your other suggestions, although I’m not sure about Moore. He’s been more of a contributor than, say, Lamar Scruggs or DeAnglelo Smith. Moore is most useful as a blocker.
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Fair point RE: Ellington. The Europe possibility never occurred to me, and I hade no idea it was that lucrative.
The reason I offered up Moore as a sacrifice rather than Scruggs or Smith is that 2012-13 will be their fourth year in the program whereas Moore should be getting his degree in May.
by Connor Tapp on Feb 3, 2012 9:45 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Yeah, Euro hoops is very lucrative. Minor college stars like Ellington routinely go over there and make 500000 grand a year or so. Downey had been over there for a couple of years until he recently returned for a roster spot on an NBA D-league team.
He took a huge pay cut to be on the D-league team, too, but he wants his shot at the NBA.
Good point about Moore. Plus, I really think Scruggs could be a contributor.
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Bruce Ellington
I strongly disagree with Tapp about Ellington. The basketball team needs him far more than does the football team. It is unlikely that Ellington will be a starter at any position for the football team, except maybe kickoff returner.
But Bruce needs to play only one sport. He needs to choose either basketball or football and try to become the best he can be at that sport. He should choose the one he enjoys playing the most because that is the one he will be most successful at.
Yeah, I have to agree. Bruce is more important to the basketball team. In football, we have two other guys--Sanders and Byrd--who do what he does.
But he’s an absolute necessity to the basketball team. I know he’s not perfect, but they’re so much better with him than without him, it’s not even funny.
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If, if, if
Ellington concentrates on basketball, he can be much better next year. He’s an intelligent kid, and can learn from the mistakes he is making now. If he works on his game in the off-season, I think he CAN be a much better player next year.
I agree. I think he's improved since last year. Better shot selection.
And that’s with having played football for most of the basketball off-season.
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by Gamecock Man on Feb 3, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Dalton Wilson has left the team.
Don’t think he had an athletic scholarship, though.
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by Gamecock'n'Balls on Feb 3, 2012 2:52 PM EST reply actions
You are correct. He was a walk-on.
by Connor Tapp on Feb 3, 2012 2:57 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
5th Year Players
None of you care about the morality of kicking fifth year players to the curb? No player likes to redshirt. But these players did what was asked and now their reward is to get booted for their senior season. I guess the lesson is that recruits should never agree to be redshirted and make that a condition when signing.
P.S. It won’t be Jerideau and Brison that get the axe, they are too valuable. Maybe Spurrier will get lucky and a crappy player will jaywalk across the street before fall practice.
It wasn't my attention to assign moral value to any of these hypothetical moves.
I was just setting out some possibilities based on the way major college football programs are known to behave.
Personally, I think showing a player the door when he has already graduated on a free ride is a roster cut with about as minimal of a moral cost you will find, given this imperfect system.
by Connor Tapp on Feb 3, 2012 5:14 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
It's not ideal, but those guys have (1) had time to break onto the depth chart, and (2) earn a degree.
If they’ve done neither, maybe that’s their fault.
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if they have their degree, why won't they volunteer to be walk-ons?
that way they could play. any player ever do that?
Sorry I'm being obtuse, but I'm not sure I follow the point of your question.
I would assume they don’t because (1) they would rather go somewhere else and play for a year or (2) they would rather just end their career and do something else than pay for classes while not getting any playing time.
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yeah, I know everyone does it..
one alternative is not to over-sign by as many as 8….maybe cut that by half and let normal attrition take care of itself. 8 it just too many. you figure discipline, grades, and medical would normally take care of four or five.
sorry if i was rude, it just seemed like a callous NFL roster cut discussion rather than one about kids asked to redshirt by coaches without realizing it could come back to burn them.. I do agree that the proposed methods are the least objectionable but still….
We've had many discussions about the unethical nature of oversigning here, actually. I know that Connor is aware of the problem.
I just don’t think that was the point of this particular post.
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Tough choices will be made
but the staff has an obligation to make the team as strong as it can be. If that means cuts, then it means cuts.
Cuts are a fact of life from late elementary school on. Every kid that wears an SEC uniform is the survivor of dozens of cuts throughout his career- many which likely claimed lots of his friends. I would imagine everyone who posts on GABA has, at some point or other in his life, been cut from a team. It’s not fun. But it’s life.
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Not to sound too callous
but its kind of a nice problem to have. So many good players that we have to get rid of some. Quite a telling sign of where the program is

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