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FOOTBALL
Midseason Report: South Carolina Stands at the Precipice and ... | Team Speed Kills
These are the questions on all of our minds.
What's it going to be, South Carolina? Will it be a season with a memory, or a season full of memories? That's the only question left to answer.
No. 19/20 South Carolina Takes Down Vanderbilt, 21-7 | Gamecocks Online
Video interviews, stats, and photos from South Carolina's victory against Vanderbilt.
Stephen Garcia: 31-39, 355 yrds, 2 TD, 1 INT, 4 SACK
Brian Maddox: 24 carries, 146 yrds, 1 TD
Tori Gurley: 13 rec, 109 yrds, 1 TD
Alshon Jeffery: 9 rec, 158 yrds, 1TD
Report card: Vanderbilt | Spur of the Moment
This is true.
The offensive gameplan in the first half looked much like the second-half plan at Kentucky. That's to say it was putrid.
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Setting up the blocked field goal was a fade call on third-and-4 from the 9 - when Maddox and USC had barreled down the field. That's a tough one to understand.
But so is this.
Reality is, South Carolina couldn't hop in a time machine Saturday and beat both Kentucky and Vanderbilt. While the loss at UK is still tough to let go of, the Gamecocks finally found a way to get the one win it could Saturday. So, give them credit for that.
A win is a win. Time to move on.
South Carolina Gamecocks Football vs Vanderbilt Field Report | Leftover hot Dog
It's the little things in life. But in this case, a conference win is considered a big thing. So I guess it's really the big things in life.
It wasn't pretty, but it was exactly what South Carolina needed. It was a conference road win, so the margin of victory isn't important.
Gamecocks Move Up in National Polls | Gamecocks Online
Concensus is we're #17 in the country. Not sure about that after last Saturday's performance. But the Recent Unpleasantness continues...
SEC East Race, A Graphic Explanation - Life of Pi Edition, UPDATED, UPDATED | The Rubber Chickens
Well that's better... somewhat.
Morris: A performance so good it makes you smile | TheState.com
Ron Morris with a nice piece that sheds some light on the dynamic amongst our running back corps. I'll refrain from posting the resignation petition because, well, I don't feel like being a jerk today. Keep up the good work, Ron!
"Kenny just couldn’t get a hole," Spurrier said of Miles. "We didn’t block very well when Kenny was in there. It just seems like he cut right into them or couldn’t shake one. I feel bad for Kenny. But when Brian got his chance he was making things happen."
Offense Wilts, Defense Gasses, and 'Dores lose on Homecoming, 21-7 | Anchor Of Gold
I have to admit, I do feel a little bit bad for Vanderbilt sometimes. But not as bad as I would feel had we lost to Vanderbilt.
RECRUITING
USC makes offer to Joe | Palmetto Sports
OL Errin Joe (6-4 295) of Lakeland, FL made an unofficial visit to USC for the Alabama without an offer from the Gamecocks. The next time he visits, he'll have an offer in his pocket.
USC remains on list of Jax DB | Palmetto Sports
DB Ahmad Christian (5-10 195) of Jacksonville, FL has USC, Auburn, Louisville, Florida, and Tennessee as his top five.
Gamecocks slight leaders for Dukes | Palmetto Sports
USC and Clemson remain the top two teams for Manning DL Phillip Dukes (6-3 280) with the Gamecocks holding a lead right now according to his coach. "USC has a slight edge because of that win over Alabama," coach Robbie Briggs said.
WOMEN'S SOCCER
Brittiny Rhoades Puts No. 18 Gamecocks Into SEC Title Game | Gamecocks Online
The score really doesn't indicate the level of domination our ladies displayed in this game.
Senior defender Brittiny Rhoades scored her first career goal in the 80th minute to propel No. 18 South Carolina to a 1-0 win against LSU Sunday and ensure that Friday's home finale against Florida will serve as the SEC regular season title match. The Gamecocks (14-3-2, 8-1-1 SEC) and Gators have the same conference record heading into their televised game this coming Friday at 7 p.m. at Stone Stadium.
MEN'S SOCCER
No. 18 South Carolina Drops C-USA Contest At Marshall | Gamecocks Online
Unacceptable. A 4-1 loss to drop this team to 2-2-1 in conference play? We're one of two SEC teams to have men's soccer program. We probably have the best facilities in the conference. We should be at the top of CUSA every year. If the best Coach Berson can do is a win over Clemson every year, we need to find a new coach.
The 18th-ranked South Carolina men's soccer team suffered a 4-1 loss on the road at Marshall in Conference USA play on Saturday at Sam Hood Field. Senior defender Will Traynor scored his fifth goal of the season in the match. With the loss, South Carolina falls to 7-5-2, 2-2-1 C-USA, while Marshall improves to 8-4-4, 3-3-1 in league contests.
EQUESTRIAN
Bulldog riders dominate South Carolina 15-4 | The Red and Black
I thought we were supposed to be good at equestrian.
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I don't know why some players choose schools based on how much that team wins.
If it were me, I’d pick one based on how shallow they are at my position. These guys will rarely get drafted if they don’t showcase their talents in college. The combine is the only saving grace for those who don’t get on the field.
stuff 'bout stuff.
by silver82blade on Oct 25, 2025 7:24 AM EDT reply actions
You've got a point
Ive always liked players who talked up (a) the chance for p.t. and (b) academic support. But who knows what goes on inside the mind of a 17-18 year old?
All of us have listened to this stuff for years, and it seems the recurring themes generally seem to be somewhere in this order …. “I love the coach who recruited me” … “I love the facilities” … “I love the way I seemed to fit in with the system” … “I love the way I felt on campus” … “I love the winning tradition” (or its flip-side, “I want to be remembered for building a winning tradition” and … “I love that my family can see me play”.
I think the prospect of winning, however, has got to be near the surface. After all, almost all of our targets come from winning HS programs. They feel like winners, and knowing its a team sport, want to play for (or build) winners … or at least play for a coach who is a known winner. That’s why “winners” like Bama, UF, LSU, Texas get so much talent year-in-year-out. That’s why UGA and Auburn basically hold a draft in Georgia every year and steal from us. That’s why no matter how beat-down UT is this year, Derek Dooley is going to land a better recruiting class in Knoxville than he deserves. And, bluntly, that’s why Spurrier has been able to raise our overall talent level to a true 2-deep (and in places 3-4 deep) SEC roster despite so-so success.
They wore garnet helmets.
by tryptic67 on Oct 25, 2025 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I also...
wouldn’t underestimate these kids’ ability to convince themselves that they’ll get plenty of p. t. wherever they go, whether it’s true or not. Urban, Saban, etc., are telling all their kids that they may have a place in the rotation from day one, and even though the kids know that it won’t work out like that for most of the recruits, a lot of them think that they’ll be the exception.
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by Gamecock Man on Oct 25, 2025 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Definately agree with that one. Everyone thinks that they are the exception. If it were me, I would go to the place that I would stand out as their star player, especially if I was that good. I wouldn’t choose a team that couldn’t win games but, I think Lattimore made a great decision, not just cuz I’m a gamecock fan. He is a great RB and chose a school that is hurting for an RB. He knew SC has the ability to win games and could win big with the right players, many of which they had, just needed the RB. Perfect example, look at Cam Newton. Played back up at FL til he got booted and went to a CC. Now he’s in the top 5 and leading Auburn to a SEC title appearance and maybe more. Schools like FL and Bama are stacked and chances of early playing time is very low. That would play heavily on my mind. I wanna play early and often for a good team with potential, not a be on a great team but never play. Just my opinion.
by Carolina Cock-n-Fire on Oct 25, 2025 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, opportunities are wasted on the young.
If it were me, and I was a 3+ star recruit, I’d go to Vanderbilt, or some school like that. You’d almost be guaranteed a starting job there. The last thing I’d do is go to a place like Florida, or Alabama, and risk getting stuck with the second or third string. Oh, yay!! We won the national championship!! Too bad I’ll be going undrafted. Oh well. I hope they majored in something useful. That’s all I can say.
stuff 'bout stuff.
by silver82blade on Oct 25, 2025 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
If you can't play in college, you sure can't play in the NFL.
There is some truth to a position being overloaded at a big time program and a player not getting the reps he needs to develop and he thus misses an opportunity to showcase his talents (e.g., Matt Cassel). The best of the best will shine anywhere, though. Reality is that even at UF, Bama, SoCal, etc., very few of those guys even make it to the league. Education is paramount. Playing in the SEC and contributing at Vanderbilt sure isn’t a bad gig.
by Skulls and Spurs on Oct 25, 2025 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I'm not sure it makes too much difference as far as making it to the NFL goes.
The guys that are good enough tend to shine wherever they go, including the ones that weren’t highly recruited. I can think of a handful of guys like Sam Bradford who weren’t highly recruited but who broke through quickly with in a big-time program. Our own Captain Munnerlyn was a two-star and was starting as a sophomore. The cream rises to the top wherever it goes.
That said, I kind of have to agree with silver that it’s hard to see why so many of these three-star guys go to the big-time programs when most of them will never get to play. Some of those guys won’t get to the NFL either way, but at least they could get to enjoy a little time in the spotlight if they go to one of the less competitive programs. And oftentimes those programs are better academically, so if you’re smart enough to get in, why not?
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by Gamecock Man on Oct 25, 2025 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I really don’t think it does. The school you went to in college doesn’t really matter if you’re a great player. Some of the best players in the NFL have come from schools that weren’t really doing anything in the NCAA and some of the best players in college turn out to be s*** in the NFL. Its crazy. I think it looks better to have an ok offensive line and ok receivers and have great performances than it does to be stacked all around you and play good. The best can be good and help make something out of nothing.
by Carolina Cock-n-Fire on Oct 25, 2025 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Even if you do see the field, the more talented the team, the less reps you might get.
That in itself could mean the difference between being a mid round pick, and a first or second rounder. That’s a lot of money to give away just ’cause a person wants to be a college conference or national champion.
stuff 'bout stuff.
by silver82blade on Oct 25, 2025 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
If Vandy was really committed to football
then they’d be a bigger winner than they are. Northwestern and Stanford show how a great academic school can do it. Vandy already recruits pretty well all over the Deep South. If they could win consistently (see above!), success would build on top of success.
Other than Duke, Vandy is the best BCSAQ school in the Deep South / Central South (no offense to Wake, Ga Tech). That should be a selling point for more kids than they’re getting right now, I agree, (To be fair, Vandy has put more OL nto the NFL than we have of late - not to mention one great NFL QB, a trick we haven’t accomplished in decades). Vandy kids play hard and smart - it’s not their 1st team that kills them, it’s their lack of talent across a 2-deep.
I dont think Robbie Caldwell is Vandy’s coach of the future. I thought they should make a run at Phil Fulmer (who can recruit south), but a friend said (and I have to agree) that Phil was recruting UT which was an easy sell. He suggested that Vandy out to go after Navy’s Ken Niumatalolo and — a la Paul Johnson at Georgia Tech — run a mean triple option. I think that would have a lot of attraction for both Vandy and Ken Niumatalolo.
They wore garnet helmets.
by tryptic67 on Oct 25, 2025 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with your friend.
I think Niumatalolo would do a fantastic job at Vanderbilt running the triple option. They need an edge beyond being fundamentally sound and being in position. I like Ken’s attitude and excitement level.
I also think you’re right about commitment to football having an impact on success; academic school or not. Vandy’s got a tougher job than all of the academics because of the SEC, though. Build it and they will come. Easier said than done.
by Skulls and Spurs on Oct 25, 2025 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Re: Report Card / Recent Unpleasantness
1. I didn’t mind passing on 3-and-goal … didnt Maddox get stuffed on 2nd down? If they load the box, then you go to the air - right? t was just a bad throw by SG into a double (again) IIRC. Yes, Steven had a career night at Vandy… but then he was on his way to a career night against UK. Maybe Spurrier has reconciled himself that Garcia’s flashes of brilliance will always be marred by bonehead plays/throws no matter how much he improves (and he has) … but then the real error in that failed drive (the one culminating with a blocked FG) was the holding penalty on Barnes. That was a big problem at Vandy … the receiving corps, except Alshon, made some bonehead plays mixed in with brilliant plays … plus the OL didnt show up the first half.
2. Last year, you will recall we played squeakers at home against Kentucky and Vanderbilt, and then got absolutely beaten by Tennessee on three (?) first half turnovers [when we had every reason to beat the tar out of big-mouth Lane F’n Kiffin] and then laid an egg against Arkansas. Here we are in the same stretch and it feels so similar that it’s hard to call this a post-Alabama funk. Last year we played poorly in this stretch and went 2-2, and this year we’ve played poorly (so far) and the best we can hope for is 3-1. Homefield for UT and the Hogs will be the difference, I think but if we want a season better than an Outback Bowl trip, then Spurrier, Johnson, Mangus et al MUST coach us out of this recurring mids-season funk.
They wore garnet helmets.
by tryptic67 on Oct 25, 2025 8:05 AM EDT reply actions
Yeah...
I don’t think you run the ball on 3rd-and-goal from the four, unless we’re talking option pitch or something else to the outside, and Maddox isn’t that kind of back. However, Garcia can’t throw the fade to save his life, so I would have preferred to see something else there.
As far as how we’re playing right now, while it’s still no excuse for losing to Kentucky and playing like we did in the first half against Vandy, I think we should still remember that we’ve been without Lattimore, who’s now going to be back. If we still stink with Lattimore playing, it’ll be time to worry about the late-season slide. As it is, I think we should be glad that he ended up being out in a game where we really didn’t need him.
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by Gamecock Man on Oct 25, 2025 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I think you're right regarding Lattimore.
The UT game will tell a lot about what he truly means to this team. In addition to his ability as a playmaker, I think there may actually be a psychological factor with him. I’m really anxious to see if we can come out on Saturday and take it to the Vols with Latti back at TB.
by Skulls and Spurs on Oct 25, 2025 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
The evidence right now says...
That we’re simply a much better team with Lattimore. With him, we lost one game to the current number one team in the country and were up 18 points at the half to Kentucky; without him, we stunk it up in the second half against Kentucky and the first half against Vandy. Maybe in the second half against Vandy we got over the psychological factor you’re identifying. Whatever the case may be, he seems to be a huge difference maker for us, and our coaches chose wisely to let him sit against Vandy.
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by Gamecock Man on Oct 25, 2025 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm glad he was able to get the rest too.
by Skulls and Spurs on Oct 25, 2025 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Lattimore being out is not a big deal.
Maddox could not have done a better job against Vandy. I think the difference in talent between Maddox and Lattimore is quite small. Lattimore can bounce off tackles better, but that’s about it. Maddox has every bit the power, shiftiness, vision and speed required to be a great back.
I thought we had more in Miles than we do. I was kind of disappointed there. He really requires some good holes to make anything happen, ‘cause he isn’t bouncing off of any tackles or juking anyone. He pretty much runs straight to the first hole he sees, and if a defender is there he gets pounded. I don’t like when backs dance around in the backfield, but Miles takes it to the other extreme. He just runs straight, and then goes down with the first hit.
I don’t think there is a psychological factor with Lattimore in though. I wholly expected Vandy’s defensive line to play very well early on. They’re talented, and dominated us in the first half. Maddox did great with the offense in the second half though. In the Kentucky game, they just never called runs much when Lattimore went out. If they had, I imagine they would’ve done fine. The offense is fine without Lattimore, as long as the playcalling doesn’t change simply ‘cause he’s out.
stuff 'bout stuff.
by silver82blade on Oct 25, 2025 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmm. We'll see.
I don’t think you can underestimate the importance of Lattimore’s ability to get an extra three or four yards when he gets hit at the line. That would have made a major difference for us in the first half against Vandy. Of course, as you imply, it might have made the same difference to have gone with Maddox instead of Miles from the beginning. Maddox isn’t quite as good as Lattimore, but he’s playing like an above-average back right now.
At any rate, I think the biggest way that losing Lattimore hurt us is that it caused our coaches to lose their mind in the second half against Kentucky. If they hadn’t gone stupid and had committed to pounding the ball with Maddox, we would have probably been fine.
As far as Miles goes, I remember from last year that he, like you say, tends to jet to the first hole he sees and run straight ahead. I seem to remember him being better at breaking tackles, though. Not Lattimore good, but it seemed like he could always get a couple of extra yards. Maybe it’s just rust.
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by Gamecock Man on Oct 25, 2025 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't remember anything about Miles from last year other than his speed.
I don’t have a good memory. He may be better than he showed against Vandy. I don’t think it would’ve mattered who we played in the first half against them though. Our offensive line was getting manhandled. Lattimore would’ve been dropped just as bad as Miles. There were multiple defensive linemen getting into the backfield on nearly every play. There would’ve only been one difference between Lattimore and Miles in that situation. Miles went down with the first hit. Lattimore would’ve spun off the first hit and immediately been decapitated with the second hit before he finished turning around.
stuff 'bout stuff.
by silver82blade on Oct 25, 2025 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Very well said on all accounts.
I think Lattimore’s injury last week proved that he is not only a sensational talent, but also the heart and soul of this offense. I refused to believe we’re as one-dimensional as we played in the second half against UK, and lo and behold, we aren’t — the Vanderbilt win was a showcase of what our “other” guys can do. But Lattimore’s unexpected absence in the UK game threw everyone for a loop — coaches and players alike — and totally took the offense out of its rhythm.
As for Miles, I loved his style of running last year and he was easily my favorite freshman after Jeffery. I really feel for the guy; I wanted VU to be his breakout game. But I think a combination of poor OL play and just plain rustiness worked against him.
by RumblinFish on Oct 25, 2025 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Miles had the misfortune
of playing mostly in the first half when the OL wasn’t blocking well. Miles was getting holes in the second half that weren’t there for Kenny. You got to go with the hot hand but you gotta feel sorry for Kenny - even Spurrier conceded this. In any event, Maddox is the number 2. He also blocked like a madman.
They wore garnet helmets.
by tryptic67 on Oct 25, 2025 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, meant Maddox
was getting holes in the second half.
They wore garnet helmets.
by tryptic67 on Oct 25, 2025 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I think that's true. Maddox had better holes.
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by Gamecock Man on Oct 25, 2025 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Lattimore did and is going to do great things for our offense, but I have to say that I am proud of Maddox for stepping up and filling that spot while Latti was out. I really thought Miles was going to do better but, for some reason he just couldn’t get it going. Maddox did a good job, 159yds in the 2nd half alone was a great personal effort.
by Carolina Cock-n-Fire on Oct 25, 2025 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I forgot about that horrible o-line play we had in the first half. I have been trying to forget the UK and 1st half of the Vandy game and focus on the 2nd half. Miles is a decent back but, like you’ve all said he doesn’t do anything but jet towards a hole. He needs to work on breaking tackles and juking a little. You can’t rely on speed alone in the SEC. It could have been a little rush and poor line play that made Miles look so bad but, who knows. Hopefully he’ll bounce back when given the chance.
by Carolina Cock-n-Fire on Oct 25, 2025 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
In fairness to Steve ...
wouldnt you call the second TD pass to Alshon Jeffery in the Bama game a fade? I’m not sure the first TD pass to Alshon in the Auburn game was a fade or a flag route, but it was a thing of beauty.
I personally think Steven could have run it rather than throw on that play against Vandy.
They wore garnet helmets.
by tryptic67 on Oct 25, 2025 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I would have to say that Garcia has made a lot of progress from last year, especially completion percentage. He is 72% right now, thats not too shabby in the SEC. He still makes some bone head mistakes but, overall he is a decent QB. He still hasn’t lived up to his potential but, I think he will get there with 1 more year and correct the careless mistakes. Mean while, what I’ve seen from Shaw so far is getting me pretty excited for the next couple years. He is showing a lot of poise and composure in the pocket and he knows when to run and when no to. When he does decide to run he is picking up decent yardage too. He will be a great QB in the next couple years.
by Carolina Cock-n-Fire on Oct 25, 2025 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions


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