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Should Ray Tanner Get a Raise?

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The question isn't whether this man deserves a raise, but, rather, should USC give him one. (Photo by Christian Petersen/Getty Images)

The obvious answer to this question is a resounding "yes," but do the economics of college baseball dictate otherwise? Let's investigate.

The State recently reported that Ray Tanner currently gets paid $370,000 annually with an additional $110,000 tacked on from Easton, the Gamecocks' bat supplier. On top of that, Tanner earned an another $130,000 in bonuses as well. $40,000 of that is for making it to the College World Series, $50,000 for winning the National title, and another $40,000 from Easton. He could still earn an extra $25,000 if he is the consensus national coach of the year in voting by four organizations. All told, Tanner will haul in $610,000 in compensation this year with a chance at $635,000. Not bad by anyone's mearuring stick.

To put that gaudy number in perspective The Biz of Baseball reports that Texas coach Augie Garrido and Miami coach Jim Morris lead all college baseball coaches, earning $600,000 per year in base pay. Against those figures Ray Tanner's salary looks almost insulting. Consider, though, that Augie has been named national coach of the year five times, won the CWS five times, and has more wins than any Division I coach in college baseball history. For his part, Jim Morris already has 2 College World Series.

And while Ray Tanner certainly deserves a raise after bringing so much joy to so many fans, what is often overlooked is that USC's baseball program still mired in the red ink. The question becomes, "How much are you willing to pay a coach (even a great one) of a program that has never covered its expenses?" The Gamecock baseball program is currently listed as having $334,324 in annual operating expenses. If we add the cost of the new stadium to that (roughly $36M, paid for by bonds, over 50 years as a conservative estimate) that number jumps up to $1,054,324. And since our operating expense number is from 2009, we'll have to include Tanner's 2010 bonuses as well. Lastly, we have to figure in the all of the administrative and marketing costs that aren't factored into "operating" expenses (roughly $30M, of which I will conservatively allocate $1.5M to the baseball program). That brings our grand total up around $2.6M in expenses for 2010. Of that figure, Ray Tanner's salary is around 23%.

Now, I can't quote USC's baseball revenues because that information is not available to me, but I do remember an article from The State a while back that stated the net effect is a loss. Meanwhile, Steve Spurrier's annual take home of around $2.5M is roughly 12% of the football team's expenses - and that's from a team that turns enough of a profit to support the rest of the athletic department.

This all isn't to say that USC can't afford to give Tanner a raise. If Hyman can afford to pay Dawn Staley a guaranteed salary of $345,000, surely we can find a little cash in the coffers to bring our newly minted national title-winning coach up to at least that level. What I am saying, though, is people need to stop and think for a moment before they say things like "Ray Tanner deserves to be the highest paid coach in the country. Pay the man, Hyman" they need to think about the consequences. Tanner is a great guy, and character should factor into his salary in a positive way, but are you willing to cough up even more in the way of PSLs so that Ray Tanner can get what he deserves?

For my part I think Ray should get a raise. There is a huge difference between a coach that has won a College World Series and one that hasn't. For starters, we'll now have to pay more to keep other programs' grubby hands off of him. More than that, though, we should now be paying him for reaching the ultimate goal in his field and not just his potential. I mean, he did it. He won us a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP, and he did it in the classiest way possible. A year ago I would have been staunchly against giving Tanner a raise. Things are different now, though. We're national champs. So pay the man, Hyman.

Poll
Do you think USC should give Ray Tanner a raise?
No. He can get a raise when the baseball team starts making a profit.
5 votes
Yes. Make him the highest paid coach in college baseball. You can't put a price on character.
10 votes
Yes. Tanner shouldn't be the highest paid coach in college baseball, but he should be the 2nd highest paid coach at USC.
38 votes
Yes, but only his incetives should be increased.
5 votes
Yes, but only to bring him in line with Dawn Staley.
10 votes

68 votes | Poll has closed

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For the record, my vote is for #2.

Dum spiro spero - "While I breathe, I hope"
State motto of South Carolina

by The Feathered Warrior on Jul 13, 2025 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Doh! I mean #3.

Dum spiro spero - "While I breathe, I hope"
State motto of South Carolina

by The Feathered Warrior on Jul 13, 2025 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I voted for #3.

I’m not down for putting our baseball program deeper into the red by paying Tanner more than the guy at Texas (don’t forget that Texas is one of those programs that has almost unlimited funds), but Tanner deserves to be well compensated for reaching the pinnacle of his profession. For one thing, the championship should produce revenue in the form of increased fan support and TV interest for the Gamecocks in the future, and Tanner should be one of the beneficiaries.

I’m actually kind of surprised we’re in the red in baseball. We seem to sell plenty of tickets, and a baseball program doesn’t cost all that much to run.

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by Gamecock Man on Jul 13, 2025 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

These numbers are based on a hearty amount of conjecture on my part.

Unfortunately, information on college athletics financials is pretty hard to come by, short of filing a FOIA request. So, us being in the second year of having the new stadium could have changed our financial picture significantly.

Dum spiro spero - "While I breathe, I hope"
State motto of South Carolina

by The Feathered Warrior on Jul 13, 2025 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was unable to vote, ‘cause "No, that’s a ridiculous amount of money for a baseball coach," wasn’t an answer. First, my personal belief is no one should ever make that kind of money ever for any purpose. I hate capitalism. Second, baseball coaches barely even do anything. They do some scouting, decide who plays where, and decide when pitchers come out of games. A baseball team doesn’t even really need a coach. Guys could probably decide amongst themselves who should play where, and a pitcher can just come out when he’s tired and ineffective. Bam, I just saved the school 600 grand.

stuff 'bout stuff.

by silver82blade on Jul 13, 2025 11:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I appreciate your point of view,

but Ray Tanner does a lot for this program. I can see where you’re coming from with professional baseball somewhat, but college coaches earn their money in many more ways than just strategizing during a game. Even at the college level there is still a bunch of player development going on, as evidenced by the performance gap between the pros and NCAA. Then there is the recruiting aspect that you already mentioned, as well Tanner’s presence in the community and as an ambassador for our University. There is much more to collegiate sport than in-game strategy.

Oh, and with regards to capitalism, you might like this quote by Sir Winston Churchill:

The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.

Dum spiro spero - "While I breathe, I hope"
State motto of South Carolina

by The Feathered Warrior on Jul 14, 2025 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know dude. Baseball player development? They catch and throw. Any child can do that. All college players do is catch and throw faster. I suppose some players may need their batting form tuned slightly, but they should’ve been playing for a long time and have that down by the time they’re in college. Pitching is the only real skill position in baseball.

And, I didn’t say I agreed with socialism either, at least man-made socialism. I don’t agree with any system set up by any human being. It will always be flawed to a high degree.

stuff 'bout stuff.

by silver82blade on Jul 14, 2025 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tanner does plenty to earn his money...

There’s just a lot more to baseball than you’re suggesting.

As far as capitalism goes, I think we need to get past the idea that it’s either capitalism or socialism and nothing in between. Socialism is obviously a broken system, but anyone that is willing to think critically about what caused recent economic downturn should be willing to take a critical eye to capitalism, as well. It’s worth noting that the capitalism of Churchhill’s day was actually a good bit more humane than the post-1970s neoliberalism that has eroded the middle class and caused the recent crisis. Perhaps we should go back to Keynesian economics in some form.

That’s all I have to say about that. I argue with people enough about this at school, and consider this blog a fun diversion.

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by Gamecock Man on Jul 14, 2025 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought you said you were an English major?

Dum spiro spero - "While I breathe, I hope"
State motto of South Carolina

by The Feathered Warrior on Jul 14, 2025 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Two things...

1. Literature students do a lot of interdisciplinary work these days. Instead of simply trying to figure out why, say, Moby Dick is a great novel, they think about how Moby Dick, as a complex literary text, engages with socio-historical issues. Capitalism can obviously figure large in those kinds of discussions.
2. Grad students spend most of their free time attempting to wax intellectual about just about anything, some of which they actually know about, some not. Capitalism can figure large there, too.
:-)

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by Gamecock Man on Jul 14, 2025 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well written write up

I must say if this were a private business, (and run that way) they would have long ago shut down baseball (and most other sports) to focus on their profitable core competencies (obv football). When you look at it relatively….hell yes Ray should be payed more than our woman’s bball coach.

Maybe, just once, someone will call me "sir" without adding, "you're making a scene."

by HireMattMillen on Jul 14, 2025 10:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks.

Although, one might look at baseball at USC the same way one might look at entering a new market. You would expect a loss in the short term but profit long term. USC is pretty close to turning that profit, and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if it happens within five years.

Dum spiro spero - "While I breathe, I hope"
State motto of South Carolina

by The Feathered Warrior on Jul 14, 2025 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

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